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Offline mbettman

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identify please
« on: February 26, 2018, 10:00:45 »
What are the bubble looking things in the middle of the zoas?

Offline erinwalling

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Re: identify please
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2018, 10:44:06 »
Looks like Bubble Algae.

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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2018, 10:50:08 »
bubble algae

Offline mbettman

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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2018, 11:31:05 »
Is that bad

Offline JMM

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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2018, 12:20:43 »
It’s kinda cool looking but invasive. Peroxide in a syringe and squirt them with it and they will go away. Treatment Will not hurt the corals.

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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2018, 12:43:16 »
Do not bust the bubble if at all possible. It will spread everywhere. Take the rock out, if possible, and tray to pull the bubble off without damaging it. Then rinse the rock in a bucket of tank water before putting back in the tank.

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Re: identify please
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2018, 14:20:16 »
Do not bust the bubble if at all possible. It will spread everywhere. Take the rock out, if possible, and tray to pull the bubble off without damaging it. Then rinse the rock in a bucket of tank water before putting back in the tank.

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I don't want to start an argument... but I've been waiting for this issue to come up on OhioReef for a while.....and was wondering is anyone actually had any info on this...
What evidence exists that popping them causes them to spread? Bubble algae is a single celled organism, everything that I have found (scientific papers and such) indicate that they reproduce by splitting at the base, and since they are just a single cell, they can split and spread very fast. The natural remedies for this problem (emerald mythrax crabs), end up popping the bubbles when they eat them. And, if they do release spores... wouldn't those spores have to consist of at least one cell? Meaning that  a single bubble algae with spores would be a multi-cellular organism? I am by no means a biologist, I've just been very curious about this for a while and have never seen any evidence supporting the "do not pop" stance other than people just saying it on forums.

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Re: identify please
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2018, 15:29:13 »
My evidence is my eradication of it in my tank. Do what you’re comfortable with. I don’t pop them in my DT.


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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2018, 15:43:24 »
My evidence is my eradication of it in my tank. Do what you’re comfortable with. I don’t pop them in my DT.



I'm not saying you are wrong... I just haven't seen anything beyond anecdotal evidence. Its like garlic curing ich.... it's just something that has spread through the hobby online to the point where people believe it but there doesn't seem to be any studies anywhere to prove if it does or doesn't.

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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2018, 17:01:06 »
I have the same bubble algae that keeps growing back from the same spot on my gonipora. I've tried to scrape it off, sometimes with better luck than other times. Sometimes I'll accidentally pop one. Luckily, it still seems isolated to that one coral.

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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2018, 17:40:37 »
Well first, there are quite a few different types of “bubble algae”. All of which are a nuisance. However, some appear to reproduce via anchor roots while others release spores (Order Valoniaceae). Simple google search, first return.

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-02/hcj/feature/index.php

My personal experience is that when I popped them, new bubbles would show up 4”-6” away on another rock. I quit popping and started removing the vesicles outside the DT and then rinsing the rock in a separate bucket. The only time I see it in my DT now is shortly after putting new frags in the tank.

 

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