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Reef Discussion => Water Chemistry => Topic started by: Warhawk937 on March 21, 2018, 20:44:03

Title: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Warhawk937 on March 21, 2018, 20:44:03
Tank has been up a month and im noticing the water is becoming foggy?   I believe this is a bacteria bloom .  How would you guys deal with this?  Im currently doing a 15% water change and have ordered chemi-pure blue as well as seacem purigen,  Knee jerk reaction is to uo the chemical filtration.  not will to spend the money on a uv sterilizer just yet.
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Reeferntraining on March 21, 2018, 21:08:23
What are your test kits telling you?
Salinity
Ammonia
Nitrite
Nitrate
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Warhawk937 on March 21, 2018, 21:19:30
1.024 salinity
 ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 5 ppm( before water change)
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Reeferntraining on March 22, 2018, 07:08:48
Tests look good. The only time Iíve ever had cloudy/milky water is when I still had ammonia in the tank and turned the lights on. Iím also not a fan of using chemicals to treat issues unless itís your last resort.

Iím assuming youíre all the way thru your cycle? Are you running carbon or any other media?
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Warhawk937 on March 22, 2018, 09:25:32
hmmm I'm not registering ammonia or nitrate.  But have only hade the tank up a month.  could be a faulty test.  I have a couple of green chromis in there ( not showing  any signs of stress) with 40lb of live rock and 50lbs of live sand.  diatom bloom showed up about 2 weeks ago and lasted for about a week. I took that has the end of the cycle? your thoughts.  I'm filtering with a filter pad and a skimmer.  I was thinking it maybe the filter pad does not do a good enough job of containing the detritus and I'm having particulate suspended in the water.  I'm switching from the filter pads to quilt batting as the fabric is a tighter weave.  just a thought.   
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Reeferntraining on March 22, 2018, 10:32:26
You have a nitrate reading so you should be thru your cycle. I think the tighter floss will help if it is particulates, as your saying. Your skimmer should be picking a lot of that up though if itís a good skimmer. I would consider using a bit of carbon and see if that helps with any organic matter in the water.
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Lazylivin on March 22, 2018, 11:03:47
Warhawk937 can you share a picture of your tank, sump and any equipment. It will help us get a picture of what we are dealing with. Turn Blue LED off for picture if it comes out to blue for us to see any detail
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Warhawk937 on March 22, 2018, 17:07:48
pics
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Reeferntraining on March 22, 2018, 18:26:40
You got a nice setup there Warhawk. So I think I see a hydrometer in your third pic. Is that how you got your 1.024 reading?
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Warhawk937 on March 22, 2018, 20:43:24
Thanks and yeah I have a refractometer in the mail I usually take multiple samples every couple days
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Humphrey on March 22, 2018, 21:23:49
Have you added seachem stability?  Any other bacteria in a bottle product?

Are you dosing anything (vodka, no3po4x, vitamin C, biopellets).
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Warhawk937 on March 22, 2018, 21:29:44
To speed up the cycle I used bright well micro Baxter and sea chem prime on startup but nothing in the last week
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Humphrey on March 22, 2018, 21:35:59
Ok probably just a bacterial bloom as you surmised.  Typically not that big a deal, but youíll wonder why itís taking so freaking long to clear. Nothing else you can do that I know of. Youíd think you could do a water change but that usually doesnít work. These are bacteria that double every 20 minutes. Oxygen is the only real concern so just so water is moving through the overflow it should just be a waiting game.

Maybe 2 to 3 weeks when Iíve had it before.
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Humphrey on March 22, 2018, 21:37:46
UV might clear it quicker but Iíve never used one and mine have cleared with time. Perhaps someone else could chime in on that one.
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Warhawk937 on March 22, 2018, 23:08:08
It has been 15 years since I have set up a tank.  Iím ok with the bloom as long as it is temporary. I just donít remeber ever having this issue.  My goal in my tanks is to have the fish looking like they are floating On air  I can wait for it. Guess if it a bacteria bloom my questions are: do these clear up on their own and is this condition dangerous for the live stock
Title: Re: new tank syndrome?
Post by: Humphrey on March 23, 2018, 06:09:26
My opinion/experience:

Itís happened to me three times. 2 times when starting a new tank w/bacteria in a bottle (QT tanks) and once employing maintenance bacteria (Display tank).

It will clear on its own. Oxygen depletion is the chief danger, and since you have a sump/overflow I donít think your livestock will suffer.  You always worry when offering such opinions because you dont want to harm other peopleís tanks, but Iíve never lost anything during these events.