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Title: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on May 04, 2019, 13:07:05
We are getting close... they dropped the software updates yesterday.  :)

I believe I've got one locked in... anyone else planning on getting one?

Brandon
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Wall_Tank on May 04, 2019, 17:55:42
Sooner or later.  Neptune doesn't have a good track record of bugs or hardware problems on first release.
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: jjoos99 on May 04, 2019, 20:20:29
I think it stinks that it will not work with the older classic controller. 
Jeff
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Lazylivin on May 04, 2019, 23:49:04
Good you got one locked in. I will try to get one but not counting on being that lucky. Not sure how many they will have but probably not enough.
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on May 05, 2019, 00:12:47
Sooner or later.  Neptune doesn't have a good track record of bugs or hardware problems on first release.

Fair enough.  I have a trusted friend who is testing one and says his has been very solid overall through the NSI period.  I believe they've tested the crap out of these things.

I think it stinks that it will not work with the older classic controller. 
Jeff

I agree.  They say the classic doesn't have enough resources of some sort, but I'm not sure I believe them.  I don't think they've said exactly what it is the new ones have that the classics don't. 

Good you got one locked in. I will try to get one but not counting on being that lucky. Not sure how many they will have but probably not enough.

I have a friend who is NSI and is also a dealer, so I think he's been able to secure one for me.  I won't be too heartbroken if I have to wait until the second round come out.  Hope you're able to get one, too, Brian. 

Brandon
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: erky on May 05, 2019, 07:47:09
not me, i already have an alk monitor!
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on May 05, 2019, 10:36:55
Did you get an alktronic?

Brandon
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: erky on May 07, 2019, 20:03:30
Did you get an alktronic?

Brandon

yes have had it about a year now, i really like it! they just released the doseatronic that will do ca/mg and whatever else you want up to 4 bottles dosed.
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on May 07, 2019, 21:05:43
Nice!

The Trident was announced as available tonight at midnight, which is pretty sweet. 

Brandon
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: jjoos99 on May 07, 2019, 22:50:27
I picked up Lazylivin's old kh guardian that he had so many problems with.  I bought and installed all the newer updated parts on it and updated the driver and it has been working like a champ.  Been running for 6 weeks now and has only had a few out of kilter readings.  I am hoping this trend will continue long term.  It is just a monitor and I am not sure that I would totally trust my alk levels to a controller.  One false low reading and have the controller overdose alk and kiss your corals goodby.
Jeff
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on May 07, 2019, 22:57:11
That makes sense, Jeff.  However, it's important to understand that the dosing is controlled within limits.  It won't just suddenly dose 4 times as much as it normally would due to one bad reading.  It will actually sound an alarm if something is way off base.  :) 

Brandon
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: jjoos99 on May 07, 2019, 23:37:30
You can set up the kh guardian the same way with limiting the amount of alk it will dose at one time and it will link up to apex and you can program alerts.  I have been using it mostly for watching trends in alk and has been invaluable while adjusting my calcium reactor.  I would still test manually randomly to confirm any alk monitor or controller.  The kh guardian uses a ph probe to test with so if the probe would slowly change its readings you might not notice it and the alk readings on the controller would be affected either up or down.  Re calibration of the probe will need to be done every couple on months I would think to keep things accurate.
Jeff
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: erky on May 08, 2019, 10:35:35
You can set up the kh guardian the same way with limiting the amount of alk it will dose at one time and it will link up to apex and you can program alerts.  I have been using it mostly for watching trends in alk and has been invaluable while adjusting my calcium reactor.  I would still test manually randomly to confirm any alk monitor or controller.  The kh guardian uses a ph probe to test with so if the probe would slowly change its readings you might not notice it and the alk readings on the controller would be affected either up or down.  Re calibration of the probe will need to be done every couple on months I would think to keep things accurate.
Jeff

I tried to share with Lazy my DIY reagent mix but it didnt work for the KHG, have you played with that yet?
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: jjoos99 on May 08, 2019, 11:40:58
I tried to share with Lazy my DIY reagent mix but it didnt work for the KHG, have you played with that yet?
No I havent yet.  I have one packet of their reagent and a few weeks worth of my first batch.  More then willing to try another reagent since it looks like it will be about $15 a month just to keep the kh guardian running.
Jeff
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: erky on May 08, 2019, 11:47:38
No I havent yet.  I have one packet of their reagent and a few weeks worth of my first batch.  More then willing to try another reagent since it looks like it will be about $15 a month just to keep the kh guardian running.
Jeff

i think i found a mix you can try, i will send you a pm. could save you significant $ in the long run
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: jjoos99 on May 08, 2019, 12:00:13
Are you able to have the test samples empty back into the tank? I am currently doing that with no problems.
Jeff
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: erky on May 08, 2019, 13:01:44
yes 100%
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Wall_Tank on May 11, 2019, 13:08:29
So anyone get one out of that first shipment?
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Lazylivin on May 11, 2019, 20:01:14
It was supposed to be released 3 AM Eastern time and BRS said they won’t release it a minute sooner in their live event on that day. I set my alarm for 2:59 AM and kept hitting refresh on the site until about 3:20am and it never showed available. I started doing some checks on Facebook and apparently they released it 10 minutes early so it went on sale at 2:50 AM and was sold out around 2:58am.

If anyone hears they’re going to be available again text me if you wouldn’t mind 937-344-3956
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Wall_Tank on May 12, 2019, 11:45:53
I think PA did the same thing.  I got an email saying they were available.....I saw the email come in, and they were sold out already.

Look at ebay.....one is already bid upto $1325......
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on May 12, 2019, 11:49:01
Not gonna lie... if I'm able to get one, I'll be tempted to stick it on eBay.  lol

I didn't get in the first round... hoping for the second!

Brandon
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on May 15, 2019, 13:55:52
Got mine ordered today!  I think the second batch released today.  Hopefully it'll be here Friday, but it could be Monday.  We'll see.

Brandon
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Lazylivin on May 15, 2019, 23:35:31
Congratulations! I am so jealous
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on May 17, 2019, 13:05:18
It came in!  The box had some graffiti.  I dig it!  :)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190517/8782b16f0c596cea697517ce51d0d6e6.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190517/c809b1851a33b5fa0dc6f9eb6374b6cf.jpg)

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Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Lazylivin on May 17, 2019, 22:56:46
Congrats on scoring one!
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on May 17, 2019, 23:02:15
Thanks!  Had a spot for it under the tank.  :) This unit will change the hobby for me(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/17a990c7afe0ac6a0afaeaee7464498c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190518/82b47b6a9dd53227e5aafb1297302681.jpg)

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Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: jjoos99 on May 17, 2019, 23:14:35
Are you planning on having it automatically dose off the trident's readings?  How much will the reagents be to keep this thing running?
Jeff
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on May 17, 2019, 23:17:39
Are you planning on having it automatically dose off the trident's readings?  How much will the reagents be to keep this thing running?
Jeff
I am.  They recommend running it for a week first.  I also have a DOS and I'm running BRS two part.  The reagents are about $45 for two months.  Not too bad.

Brandon

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Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Tobe1971 on May 18, 2019, 00:46:48
Not a fan of Apex in general for various reasons. Plus I’m a member of the Vertex Cerebra beta test group and will be getting my new controller from them soon and it integrates with Alkatronic and the new testing device from Coral Vue.
https://www.coralvue.com/xepta-abex

PS if anyone is interested in a Vertex Cerebra below retail I have access to several as I acquired extras throughout the beta test period. PM me for details. This thing is gonna be a game changer
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on May 18, 2019, 00:48:38
Nice!  Competition is a good thing.  When are they coming out?

Brandon

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Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Tobe1971 on May 18, 2019, 02:03:59
They are shipping replacement units to the first 80 beta testers in the next couple
of weeks. 

Competition definitely helps us all! 
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on May 18, 2019, 10:02:00
Nice!  I look forward to hearing more about those units. 

Brandon
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Warhawk937 on September 21, 2019, 22:45:47
My trident will be here Tuesday. I wondering who else has been using one and are they more accurate then other test kits?
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on September 23, 2019, 22:27:58
I've had zero issues with mine.  Works great.  I'm confident it's just as accurate as any other titration method.  More so with me removed from the equation.  :)

Brandon
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Topekoms on September 24, 2019, 13:19:09
I will be getting one with my new setup
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: erky on September 24, 2019, 13:58:51
how is their alk reagent made, i created my own for the alkatronic, are people interested in this?
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on September 24, 2019, 14:12:55
You have to buy the reagents from them.

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Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: erky on September 24, 2019, 14:14:51
You have to buy the reagents from them.

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i highly doubt you actually have to buy theirs, what alkatronic said too....
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on September 24, 2019, 14:17:22
I'm sure someone could figure it out.  But no one has to my knowledge.  There are three reagents in the case of the Trident.  Isn't there just one in the Alktronic?  I would expect it to be immensely more complicated to figure out 3 of them, but maybe it's not.  I dunno.

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Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: erky on September 24, 2019, 14:23:50
I'm sure someone could figure it out.  But no one has to my knowledge.  There are three reagents in the case of the Trident.  Isn't there just one in the Alktronic?  I would expect it to be immensely more complicated to figure out 3 of them, but maybe it's not.  I dunno.

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doesnt the trident test 3 different things?
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on September 24, 2019, 14:26:17
Yes, but it uses the reagents in different amounts for each of those 3.  It's not 1 to 1.

Brandon

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Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Miles on September 25, 2019, 19:18:21
Got mine the other day... BRS accidently shipped me 2  :not speak:
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Warhawk937 on September 25, 2019, 19:26:28
finder keepers thats awesome. if you return it id hope they hooked you up with something.  question did you guys doan initial calibration before you started testing?
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: Miles on September 25, 2019, 19:29:03
finder keepers thats awesome. if you return it id hope they hooked you up with something.  question did you guys doan initial calibration before you started testing?

I sent it back... I felt bad that someone else that was on the waiting list was probably getting screwed over. The guy I talked to on the phone said that they would probably work out some sort of deal for me once they get it (supposed to be delivered tomorrow, so  we'll see).

As far as calibration goes, the directions say to wait 24-48 hours before calibrating. I haven't calibrated mine yet....
Title: Re: Neptune Trident... who all is planning on getting one?
Post by: NeveSSL on September 25, 2019, 20:09:30
Yeah, I followed the directions...  Calibrated 2 or 3 days after I had it up and running.

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