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Dry Rock
« on: May 28, 2011, 03:40:23 »
I am looking to order some Dry Rock in the very near future, I am looking at anywhere from 50-100#'s of it... I have been looking at the BRS Reefsaver rock...

Anyone else in need of any before I place my order? Maybe we could save a few bucks by placing one big order if anyone else may be interested
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2011, 04:25:57 »
where are you ordering and how much is it a pound and what kind of rock is it thanks.

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2011, 08:30:45 »
I was thinking about ordering a much smaller amount of Marco dry rock from premium aquatics, when we get the group order together. From what I hear from other members, its great rock?

http://premiumaquatics.com/aquatic-supplies/L-MARCO-DRY.html

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2011, 09:56:26 »
I am looking to order some Dry Rock in the very near future, I am looking at anywhere from 50-100#'s of it... I have been looking at the BRS Reefsaver rock...

Anyone else in need of any before I place my order? Maybe we could save a few bucks by placing one big order if anyone else may be interested

What size do you want?  I think I have some larger pieces of dry rocl.

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2011, 11:00:44 »
where are you ordering and how much is it a pound and what kind of rock is it thanks.

I was looking at the reef saver rock from BRS(I like the idea behind it, and the style)
http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/store/brs-reef-saver-dry-aquarium-eco-rock.html

I also was looking at the key largo rock from marcorocks
http://www.marcorocks.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=100&HS=1

The BRS is a bit more expensive but only by a few cents... I did not know that PA carried any rock, I searched for some but I guess I was to tired last night and over looked it.

I have 65# of Fiji atm... the only thing kinda holding me back on the brs is the look is much different from what Ihave now, so I'm trying to decide if mixing the two will yield the results I am looking for.

And Micki the size doesn't matter much to me, I am going for price and looks, if it's to big I will just cut it or break it up.
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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2011, 11:01:05 »
I ordered some if the Fiji dry rock from BRS and was very pleased with it and it came in a couple days.
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2011, 11:03:02 »


And Micki the size doesn't matter much to me, I am going for price and looks, if it's to big I will just cut it or break it up.

I'll pull out what I have this weekend and take some pics. 

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 11:06:18 »
Sounds great atleast I know my gps can get me to ya now ;), might I also add my GPS died the other day as soon as I pulled out of your driveway... needless to say it was a fun trip through your neighborhood the first 2-3 times rofl
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2011, 11:09:50 »
Ohhh my, you got to see all the area, not always a good thing!  LOL  Would be a great place minus a few properties that I would blow away!

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2011, 11:10:43 »
Ohhh my, you got to see all the area, not always a good thing!  LOL  Would be a great place minus a few properties that I would blow away!

I think I know/saw exactly what you mean ;)
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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2011, 11:11:40 »
I think I know/saw exactly what you mean ;)

Ya, knocks our property value down quite a bit!   :angry4:

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2011, 11:13:28 »
Ya, knocks our property value down quite a bit!   :angry4:

I would say so, especially with as nice of a property you have.
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2011, 11:16:58 »
We moved here in 1983 then Randy built our house in 1994 on our same property.  Things have gone down hill a good bit since then.  Kind of makes me sick.

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2011, 11:23:19 »
Both of my boys live in the village.  Depending on what way you came (whitehorse trail) you might have passed both of them.  My oldest lives on the corner of white horse and the main road. They keep their house and yard very nice.  My youngest lives 3 houses down. Randy built his house 2 years ago so it's nice as well.  Except for the tree that fell on his back yard fence from the storm.  They will have that cleaned up this weekend!  We have complained to the council and nothing ever really happens.     :angry4:

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2011, 11:37:48 »
I'm not sure which way we came, do either of them have a gazillion cars? we came the way with the house with like 20+ cars parked infront of it.
 
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2011, 11:42:59 »
I'm not sure which way we came, do either of them have a gazillion cars? we came the way with the house with like 20+ cars parked infront of it.
 

Yep, that's white horse trail...My youngest son lives across the street from the gazillion car place!  His was the tan color vinal sided house with the porch around the house.  Supposedly the gazillion car issue is going to be dealt with.  I've heard that before...  >:(

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2011, 12:37:28 »
I have 65# of Fiji atm... the only thing kinda holding me back on the brs is the look is much different from what Ihave now, so I'm trying to decide if mixing the two will yield the results I am looking for.

Fiji rock and the "Reef Saver" rock, or Marco Rock will look significantly different.   I don't think I would mix the two of them.

The Saver Rocks coming from a dead reef typically "out of water"  Which is slowly eroded by the rain water.  This makes the rock very porous and open.   When I first got my shipment from Marco, I wasn't sure I was going to like it, but when I put some in water to start cycling, It's going to look fine, it stacks nicely too.


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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2011, 12:49:21 »
Here is the dry rock I have.  I don't remember what any of it is.  I had it in my aggressive tank a few years ago. The total of all the rock is 65lbs. I've labled each rock for it's weight. 
#1 2lb

#2 front - back 4lb


#3 front - back 12lb


#4 front - back - cave 10 lb



#5 2 lb

#6 top - bottom 6lb


#7 front - cave - bottom 18lb



#8 6lb
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2011, 13:05:49 »
#9 top - bottom 5lb


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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2011, 13:15:03 »
Wow micki! Thank you for taking the time and effort to take pictures and post them in such an organized manner. This should make getting rid of them all kinds of easy. That is if your willing to part w all of it? What are the prices?

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2011, 13:55:45 »
Thanks ReefPete!  I would sell it $2.00 per pound or $1.75 per pound if if someone buys it all. 

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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2011, 14:12:12 »
Thanks ReefPete!  I would sell it $2.00 per pound or $1.75 per pound if if someone buys it all.

Do you know for sure of you are/are not coming to the upcoming meeting?

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2011, 14:15:25 »
I would like to, but not 100% sure yet.  My son may be having surgery at OSU again.  I don't think it will be that soon, but then again, they may want to move on this faster.  I'm planning on going to Coral Ranch today (in a few minutes or so).  I don't know if you are near there or on the path to them somewhere...

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2011, 14:27:36 »
Where your coming from, I'm probably on the way to coral ranch. Although its not a dire issue for me to buy some rock from you today. Thats why I was asking about the meeting. I'm interested in rocks #1 and #9.
On a more serious note, I can only hope that the surgery goes through without any issues and he is okay afterwards.

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« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2011, 14:42:20 »
Well, as it turns out, I won't be going to coral ranch today.  Rich just called me and what I was hoping to get won't be in unto next week.  I'll probably going next Thursday.  As far as going to the meeting or not, I thinkn it's at Mikes house in Tipp.  If so I can always drop it off to him and you could get it at the meeting.  As I said I'm hoping to go but things can change fast!   

Thank you for the thoughts on my son.  Crazy as it is, he is 27 years and has avascular necrosis of his right hip.  He may be headed for hip replacement.  :(    Due to his complicated respiratory situation (he has COPD due to premature birth) it's very tricky for him to be under general ansethic.  There is always the fear of him becoming dependant on the ventilator.  OSU is where his lung specialist is hence we will only have surgery at OSU.  He did awesome when he had his gallbladder removed last December!  They had a special anesthesiologist that works with high risk pulmonary patients taking care of him.  The surgeon also did an uber fast GB removal so he wasn't under long at all.  Hip replacement however would be a longer surgery...The people over there are AWESOME!!! 

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2011, 14:51:29 »
That will work great for me to just get it at the meeting if you are unable to attend. Should I leave the money with Mike?
Please don't hesitate if you need anything, even if its just some moral support, I'm sure darn near everyone on here would jump on the chance to help. Myself included most definitely

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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2011, 14:55:39 »
That will work great for me to just get it at the meeting if you are unable to attend. Should I leave the money with Mike?
Please don't hesitate if you need anything, even if its just some moral support, I'm sure darn near everyone on here would jump on the chance to help. Myself included most definitely

Thanks so much!  Yes you can leave the money with Mike.  Hopefully I'll be there and it won't be an issue.  :)

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2011, 15:00:48 »
Well I'll just stay positive and say I look forward to you being there!

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2011, 15:03:38 »
Well I'll just stay positive and say I look forward to you being there!

Me too!  :)  I pulled the rocks you wanted. 

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2011, 15:07:13 »
Me too!  :)  I pulled the rocks you wanted.
;) Thanks again!

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2011, 22:57:06 »
sigh any left?
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2011, 23:01:32 »
sigh any left?

Yep, pictures 2-3-4-5-6-7-and 8.  Total of 51 pounds

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2011, 23:07:39 »
I want it all
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2011, 23:23:46 »
I want it all

It's all yours! 

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2011, 23:25:47 »
Woohoo, do I still get the 1.75 special ;)?
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« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2011, 23:26:25 »
Woohoo, do I still get the 1.75 special ;)?

Sure do!  :)

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2011, 23:30:11 »
That's what I like to hear.
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2011, 23:55:53 »
I think I just basically funded your Achilles tang single handily.
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2011, 23:59:11 »
Funny you say that, I thought the same thing!  :hysterical:

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2011, 00:27:43 »
Now who has sand...????? I need the finest sand I can find... I have plenty of Coarse.
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2011, 00:30:48 »
Seems like someone recently posted they had sand.  Maybe glance at or post in the wtb section

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2011, 04:09:38 »
sigh any left?
Sigh? Geez I only took 7lbs.  ;)

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2011, 04:11:19 »
Now who has sand...????? I need the finest sand I can find... I have plenty of Coarse.

playground sand at Lowes is about 3 bucks a bag. dirt cheap and silica free. AS LONG AS YOU GET THEIR PLAYGROUND SAND. I rinsed it though to get all the  dust out of there.

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2011, 04:12:10 »
I think I just basically funded your Achilles tang single handily.

ugh, i want one so bad

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« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2011, 04:15:08 »
playground sand at Lowes is about 3 bucks a bag. dirt cheap and silica free. AS LONG AS YOU GET THEIR PLAYGROUND SAND. I rinsed it though to get all the  dust out of there.
Does it have any other beneficial qualities other than the obvious?

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2011, 04:41:05 »
doubt it. just cheap.

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2011, 04:42:52 »
i believe the bags even say silica free

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« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2011, 05:39:30 »
yeah, its around 3-4 bucks/50lb bag

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #49 on: May 29, 2011, 07:58:35 »
Sigh? Geez I only took 7lbs.  ;)

LOL, I don't think he knew that you were the only buyer.  I'm sure he thought  there was a line waiting at my door!  ;D

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #50 on: May 29, 2011, 08:10:30 »
ugh, i want one so bad

I feel your pain, I've wanted one forever but couldn't justify the $200.00 price tag!  Thanks to Boon, I can now get one!   ;)

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« Reply #51 on: May 29, 2011, 08:43:37 »
oh i know. 200 is pretty steep. Thank goodness i have a wholesaler account and as soon as one becomes available, i may snag one.

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #52 on: May 29, 2011, 08:59:38 »
oh i know. 200 is pretty steep. Thank goodness i have a wholesaler account and as soon as one becomes available, i may snag one.

Holding out on us???

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« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2011, 09:50:53 »
LOL, I don't think he knew that you were the only buyer.  I'm sure he thought  there was a line waiting at my door!  ;D
Na, I wasn't being serious. We just :-Poke fun at each other, I'm pretty sure he wasn't either. Lol ;)

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« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2011, 09:54:24 »
Holding out on us???

lol, getting the website built and working on sponsorship. Right now doesnt seem to be a good time with the switching of positions right now.

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« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2011, 10:17:34 »
lol, getting the website built and working on sponsorship. Right now doesnt seem to be a good time with the switching of positions right now.
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #56 on: May 29, 2011, 11:29:02 »
playground sand at Lowes is about 3 bucks a bag. dirt cheap and silica free. AS LONG AS YOU GET THEIR PLAYGROUND SAND. I rinsed it though to get all the  dust out of there.

I would be careful with this.  I tried it in the past.  It was way too fine, so you need to mix with some coarser stuff.   I'm also not convinced that there is no silica in this.       

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #57 on: May 29, 2011, 11:42:57 »
i never had any issues wit the several bags i bought. but i did rinse mine before using

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #58 on: May 29, 2011, 11:49:11 »
Now who has sand...????? I need the finest sand I can find... I have plenty of Coarse.
Are you going to do about a 60/40 mix of fine/course

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #59 on: May 30, 2011, 00:40:18 »
I'm gonna give it a shot, I did notice a few bags that mentioned it was silica free, and I have plenty of live coarse so I think it should seed up nicely.

I plan on soaking it thoroughly with RO before putting in the tank.
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #60 on: May 30, 2011, 08:16:32 »
Not sure if this would apply to anyone right now. If you are switching to a new tank and starting out with all new "dead" sand while still using the same water and rick that was in your existing tank there is a way to seed the sand easily.  Take  two stockings put some live sand crushed coral whatever, put about 1 cup in each one tie a knot in each one.  Place one at one end of the tank and the other at the other end of the tank.  Leave them there for two weeks then throw them away.  Poof, seeded sand!  I did this when I upgraded from my 55 to 125, made the switch all in one day and put all the coral and fish in the same day no problems at all!

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #61 on: May 30, 2011, 08:37:13 »
Thanks for the tip!  :-ThumbUpsm

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #62 on: May 30, 2011, 10:28:34 »
I figure my live coarse sand will seed the play sand... my only question would be can i take that dry rock and throw it inthe tank with the live and add the fish and corals? or would I have to wait for the dry rock to cycle?

The only worry I have is I read dry rock can harbor dead organisms that still release ammonia and nitrites back into the tank
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #63 on: May 30, 2011, 11:22:04 »
I figure my live coarse sand will seed the play sand... my only question would be can i take that dry rock and throw it inthe tank with the live and add the fish and corals? or would I have to wait for the dry rock to cycle?

The only worry I have is I read dry rock can harbor dead organisms that still release ammonia and nitrites back into the tank

As long as the rock is completely clean, you could add at the same time.   Typically rock has some dead stuff on it, in which case when you add it to your tank, it can cause a mini cycle. 

For that matter if you add too many fish at the same time, you can cause a cycle too.   Anytime your decaying material is more than your nitrifying bacteria, you tank will do a mini cycle while the bacteria builds up to deal with the decay.

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #64 on: May 30, 2011, 13:33:20 »
I figure my live coarse sand will seed the play sand... my only question would be can i take that dry rock and throw it inthe tank with the live and add the fish and corals? or would I have to wait for the dry rock to cycle?

The only worry I have is I read dry rock can harbor dead organisms that still release ammonia and nitrites back into the tank

If you're mixing the course and sand you're fine.  I had crushed coral in mine before and wanted to get rid of that look to have smooth sand.  As for the rock...One thing you could do is soak it in bleach water and dechlorinate like 4 times after that.  I've done that before.  As for if it will cycle, I think it might depend on how much live rock you have to start with and how much you are going to add.  If you are going to use your current tank water as part of the new set up water.  I have rinsed the dry rock with RO water and added it to my tank or sump with no problems, but, I didn't add a ton at one time and I have a bigger water amount which can make a difference.  jmho

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #65 on: May 30, 2011, 15:15:21 »
I have 65# of live rock, and 51 dry rock... I can use my existing water as I just did a change and it is clean for the most part.
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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #66 on: May 30, 2011, 20:57:12 »
I would think it would be fine.

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Re: Dry Rock
« Reply #67 on: May 31, 2011, 07:19:56 »
I would think it would be fine.
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