i got mine from aquatic specialist in troy , i got two in case one didn't make it and it didn't they are delicate shipper, i believe,. but the other is alive and well and that is why i got mine. a lot of people swear the little stars are safe, i had some thing disappearing so i didnt want to chance it. i still have some but not in the numbers i did. if you get one from them or coral ranch might be able to get them let me know i might get another one they are special orders because they only eat starfish and they don't to feed them while they hold them, cant blame them on that.