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Offline Kenn

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Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« on: May 01, 2011, 15:23:26 »
Well ... As some of you at the 2011 Swap may know I was fortunate enough to win the 75g tank (Supplied from Gerbers) in the raffle  ;D

I am very excited about this as I have had to post pone getting a larger tank for some time due to the family budget.

Now that I have this nice tank I want to go with a drilled setup. I have always had overflow boxes so have no experience with drilled. I wouldn't even know where to place the holes or what size to drill (I know they don't go on the bottom) :)

I don't want to screw this up, so ANY advice on this subject would be appreciated (parts needed, techniques, etc)

Thanks!!
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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2011, 16:20:27 »
There are some great videos on you tube about drilling the glass... Once you figure out what size bulkheads you want to use, you can get the diamond glass bits off ebay super cheap, and just make sure you have the area submerged in water when you drill(plumber's putty is great for creating a area to hold water around where you are to drill); helps you place duct tape on the opposite side of where you are drilling to help stabilize the surface when you break through the other side as well as catching the circle you cut so you dont have to take your hand off the drill . If you don't have a steady hand you can get a magnetic brace; most bits come with a jig(however I have never found the need) and just drill slow and steady as long as you let the weight of the drill do the drilling and you keep it straight you will be just fine...


I personally think one wide and narrow overflow located at the center of your tank would be the best bet,but that's just me.
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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2011, 16:23:00 »
I guess that should read one long and narrow over flow...doesn't make much sense to use both wide and narrow to describe an object.
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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2011, 16:44:32 »
Anyone using  a coast to coast return and want to share any info ??

Just thought I should also consider this type of return as well since it is a new dry tank.


Changed my mind after a little more research :)

« Last Edit: May 01, 2011, 17:08:08 by Kenn »
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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2011, 17:34:23 »
I don't want to screw this up, so ANY advice on this subject would be appreciated (parts needed, techniques, etc)

Just bring the tank over to my place....   Then you don't have to worry about screwing it up.  I'll refund the price of that raffle ticket  >:D

Do you care if you see pipe?

Check out Lazy's build thread.....towards the end you see his tank shot how he did the overflow.   He put in a second smaller pipe, that runs under a full syphon, then the larger pipe is only emergency.

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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2011, 21:24:24 »
You need to make sure the tank is not tempered before you drill it. Most likely it is only tempered o the bottom but I would check for a tag on the bottom if the tank or email marineland and ask if they are tempered just to be safe.

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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2011, 21:27:30 »
You need to make sure the tank is not tempered before you drill it. Most likely it is only tempered o the bottom but I would check for a tag on the bottom if the tank or email marineland and ask if they are tempered just to be safe.

There is a BIG sticker on the bottom that indicates it is tempered. I will check with marineland just to make sure it is bottom only. Thanks for the suggestion :)
Currently doing a 75g build | http://ohioreef.com/index.php?topic=16275.0| tanks of the past : 26g Bowfront LPS and Fish| http://www.ohioreef.com/index.php?topic=4858.0 || 37g a little of everything | http://www.ohioreef.com/index.php?topic=7751.0

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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2011, 00:01:10 »
Talk to a shop.  I had Joel drill 3 holes in mine for coast to coast with triple drains.  I have also seen marine solutions offer to drill. 

Here's the part in my thread where I did the overflow

http://www.ohioreef.com/index.php?topic=7590.60
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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2011, 00:09:00 »
Thanks Wes :)

I was 1 up on ya ... I sent Joel a message today to see if it was something he would do.

I really like your set up. hows the C2C working out for ya?
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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2011, 00:13:47 »
Thanks Wes :)

I was 1 up on ya ... I sent Joel a message today to see if it was something he would do.

I really like your set up. hows the C2C working out for ya?
Its a nice setup, dead quiet.... No complaints.  If you are going to do it, I'd pay extra for the "smoked" glass. it really helps hide the pvc elbows.
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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2011, 00:16:34 »
Its a nice setup, dead quiet.... No complaints.  If you are going to do it, I'd pay extra for the "smoked" glass. it really helps hide the pvc elbows.

Where did you pick up your smoked glass ?
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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2011, 08:21:39 »
kettering glass has the smoked glass thats what I did the 30 gallon cube in too
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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2011, 10:15:00 »
Hey UDJ, you have any pics on here or can you post any of your 30g? I'd like to see it if you wouldnt mind.

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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2011, 14:08:37 »
Kenn if you want to drill yourself I have a holesaw that will cut  a hole for 1.5" bulk head. Cutting is a piece of cake. The main thing is to clamp a piece of wood inside so when you go through it will not chip out. I also cut a template in another piece of wood for the hole saw to fit in that way it doesn't walk on you when starting the hole. Then just have someone hold the hose on it to keep it cool. You can bring the tank over and we can do it together or borrow saw and do at your house.

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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2011, 15:19:13 »
Thanks Brian, much appreciated :)

Could anyone provide some info on what the benefits of a C2C overflow be to a standard drilled overflow?
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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2011, 15:25:05 »
Our new tank has an external coast to coast ( sorta the over flows don't go completely across the tank) it gives you more room in the tank. Even if you go with an internal c2c you still save room due to not having the overflow box taking up a complete corner of the tank. The most important thing I like about them is they give more surface skimming area.

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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2011, 15:34:48 »
Hey UDJ, you have any pics on here or can you post any of your 30g? I'd like to see it if you wouldnt mind.

Yes my 30 gallon build is under build threads and my 75 gallon was TOTQ the first time it was done if you would like to check that too.
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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2011, 17:04:32 »
Its all about skimming surface area. Plus, you save space in the tank like Mike said.  You are welcome to come see mine anytime.  I actually drilled the Lockline to go through the calfo, but not sure if i'd do that again
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2011, 17:21:02 »
WOW ..alot to take in. I feel like I am just starting out again :-\

I LOVE the thought of all the surface skimming. I need to educate myself on all the plumbing that would be required though (electrical is SO much easier :) )

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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2011, 18:32:51 »
Kenn if you want to drill yourself I have a holesaw that will cut  a hole for 1.5" bulk head. Cutting is a piece of cake. The main thing is to clamp a piece of wood inside so when you go through it will not chip out. I also cut a template in another piece of wood for the hole saw to fit in that way it doesn't walk on you when starting the hole. Then just have someone hold the hose on it to keep it cool. You can bring the tank over and we can do it together or borrow saw and do at your house.

Did you steal that method from me :)    That works great..

C2C gives you better surface skimming....... but an internal C2C takes up alot of space. 

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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2011, 20:28:13 »
Kenn here is a good DIY article you might want to check out

http://www.beananimal.com/projects/silent-and-fail-safe-aquarium-overflow-system.aspx

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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2011, 12:07:33 »
I will be drilling one here also in the not too distant future. There is a website called glassholes.com you might want to check out.
You can order a kit that includes an internal overflow box, bulkhead(s), template and the diamond hole saw.

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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2011, 13:12:29 »
I will be drilling one here also in the not too distant future. There is a website called glassholes.com you might want to check out.
You can order a kit that includes an internal overflow box, bulkhead(s), template and the diamond hole saw.
I used their video in drilling the holes in my old tank.  Skip the hose!  put a circle of plumbers putty around the desired spot.  Fill it with water and start drilling.  Hold the bit at an angle to strat until it gets started and then lower it so the drill is perpendicular to the tank.
I put some duct tape on the underneath so when the hole was completely drilled the extra piece didn't fall down onto the opposite side.
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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2011, 13:48:36 »
Thanks for the information everyone!

Now I may have to start a post on a new sump as my existing one was custom made (not by me) to fit under the 37g I now have :)
Currently doing a 75g build | http://ohioreef.com/index.php?topic=16275.0| tanks of the past : 26g Bowfront LPS and Fish| http://www.ohioreef.com/index.php?topic=4858.0 || 37g a little of everything | http://www.ohioreef.com/index.php?topic=7751.0

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Re: Need advice on drilling a new 75g :)
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2011, 08:52:52 »
Thanks for the information everyone!

Now I may have to start a post on a new sump as my existing one was custom made (not by me) to fit under the 37g I now have :)

You just thought you won a "free" tank.  Your going to spend 2x the tank price for the "other' stuff lol :)
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