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Reef Discussion => Equipment => Topic started by: lazylivin on June 10, 2010, 21:55:02

Title: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: lazylivin on June 10, 2010, 21:55:02
   Tank Size      Dimensions: LxWxH      Empty Weight      *Full Weight      **Tempered Bottom   
   2 1/2 Mini-Tank      12 3/16 x 6 1/8 x 8 1/8      2.6lbs      23lbs      NO   
   5 1/2 Gallon      16 3/16 x 8 3/8 x 10 1/2      7      53      NO   
   10 Gallon      20 1/4x 10 1/2 x 12 9/16      11      95      NO   
   15 Gallon      24 1/4 x 12 1/2 x 12 3/4      21      146      NO   
   15 High      20 1/4 x 10 1/2 x 18 3/4      22      147      NO   
   20 High      24 1/4 x 12 1/2 x 16 3/4      25      192      NO   
   20 Long      30 1/4 x 12 1/2 x 12 3/4      25      192      NO   
   25 Gallon      24 1/4 x 12 1/2 x 20 3/4      32      241      NO   
   29 Gallon      30 1/4 x 12 1/2 x 18 3/4      40      282      NO   
   30 Gallon      36 1/4 x 12 5/8 x 16 3/4      43      294      NO   
   30 Breeder      36 3/16 x 18 1/4 x 12 15/16      48      299      NO   
   33 Long      48 1/4 x 12 3/4 x 13 3/8      52      328      NO   
   37 Gallon      30 1/4 x 12 1/2 x 22 3/4      45      354      YES   
   38 Gallon      36 1/4 x 12 5/8 x 19 3/4      47      364      YES   
   40 Breeder      36 3/16 x 18 1/4 x 16 15/16      58      392      NO   
   40 Long      48 1/4 x 12 3/4 x 16 7/8      55      389      YES   
   45 Gallon      36 1/4 x 12 5/8 x 23 3/4      66      442      YES   
   50 Gallon      36 3/8 x 18 3/8 x 19      85      503      YES   
   55 Gallon      48 1/4 x 12 3/4 x 21      75      534      YES   
   65 Gallon      36 3/8 x 18 3/8 x 25      93      636      YES   
   75 Gallon      48 1/2 x 18 1/2 x 21 1/8      98      724      YES   
   90 Gallon      48 1/2 x 18 1/2 x 25 3/8      160      912      YES   
   120 Gallon      48 1/2 x 24 1/2 x 25 1/2      215      1217      YES   
   125 Gallon      72 1/2 x 18 1/2 x 23 3/8      206      1250      YES   
   150 Gallon      72 1/2 x 18 1/2 x 28 1/2      308      1561      YES   
   180 Gallon      72 1/2 x 24 1/2 x 25 5/8      338      1841      YES   
   210 Gallon      72 1/2 x 24 1/2 x 29 5/8      343      2097      YES   
   54 Corner      39 x 27 3/8 x 23      84      535      YES   
   92 Corner      48 1/2 x 34 1/4 x 25 1/8      131      899      YES   
   26 Bow Front      24 1/8 x 14 3/4 x 20 7/8      34      251      YES   
   36 Bow Front      30 1/4 x 15 1/2 x 20 7/8      41      342      YES   
   46 Bow Front      36 3/8 x 16 3/8 x 20 7/8      53      437      YES   
   72 Bow Front      48 3/8 x 18 x 23      91      692      YES   
   155 Bow Front      72 3/8 x 24 1/2 x 25 1/2      253      1547      YES   
   20 X-High      20 1/4 x 10 1/2 x 23 3/4      32      199      NO   
   30 X-High      24 1/4 x 12 1/2 x 24 3/4      41      292      NO   
   110 X-High      48 1/2 x 18 1/2 x 30 1/2      228      1147      NO   
   10 Hexagon      14 1/2 x 12 9/16 x 18 3/8      12      96      NO   
   20 Hexagon      18 3/4 x 16 1/4 x 20 5/8      23      190      YES   
   35 Hexagon      23 1/4 x 20 3/16 x 24 3/4      43      335      YES   
   60 Hexagon      27 1/4 x 24 1/8 x 29 1/2      110      611      YES   
   Mini Bow 2.5      14 1/8 x 7 3/4 x 11 3/8      4      25      NO   
   Mini Bow 5      14 3/4 x 9 1/2 x 15 1/8      5      47      NO   
   Mini Bow 7      18 x 11 x 13 1/2      9.5      68      NO   

* "Full Weight" is calculated by Gallons x 8.35 + "Empty Weight" = "Full Weight"
**Tempered Bottom It is recommended to check with manufacture before drilling
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: HUNGER on June 10, 2010, 22:51:51
great find thanx lazy
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: Kenn on June 10, 2010, 23:59:10
Thanks Brian. This is great !
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: Viggen on June 11, 2010, 00:09:01
I wonder how accurate those numbers are for total weight.  Looks like they used 10 lbs a gallon which is more then what water weighs plus they didn't calculate actual water volume. 

I have always guess 10lbs a gallon including tank weight & all that stuff...... just a guess
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: HUNGER on June 11, 2010, 08:15:01
should make thiss a stiky thread
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: lazylivin on June 11, 2010, 12:33:22
I wonder how accurate those numbers are for total weight.  Looks like they used 10 lbs a gallon which is more then what water weighs plus they didn't calculate actual water volume. 

I have always guess 10lbs a gallon including tank weight & all that stuff...... just a guess

I can change it Viggen, how would you recommend? Should it be Gallons x 8.35 x tank weight?

Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: reefman on June 11, 2010, 13:10:38
Is the Tempered true to all makers?
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: HUNGER on June 11, 2010, 15:51:04
not allways  but u can order tanks non temperd  even if that say they are temperd 
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: lazylivin on June 11, 2010, 19:19:28
Is the Tempered true to all makers?

There is always a chance that it could be incorrect and would recommend checking with the manufacture before you drill.
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: Viggen on June 11, 2010, 23:17:09
I can change it Viggen, how would you recommend? Should it be Gallons x 8.35 x tank weight?



No clue.... it's a great reference but no clue if a different number should be plugged in there or not.  Be to much of a PITA to measure actual water in each tank...... I have always wondered what affect rocks & all that crap play in total tank weight. 
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: lazylivin on June 11, 2010, 23:29:57
Aside from sand I am guessing the water displacement from rock, equipment and coral actually reduces the weight. However the stand, canopy and equipment outside of tank such as ballast increases it. I guess all we can do is provide true weight full of just water with no obstructions and figure the rest is a wash or not significant enough to make a diffrence one way or the other. What do you think?
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: HUNGER on June 12, 2010, 03:04:31
Aside from sand I am guessing the water displacement from rock, equipment and coral actually reduces the weight. However the stand, canopy and equipment outside of tank such as ballast increases it. I guess all we can do is provide true weight full of just water with no obstructions and figure the rest is a wash or not significant enough to make a diffrence one way or the other. What do you think?


very true
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: lazylivin on June 12, 2010, 12:37:21
I made the change in weight and added the notation.
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: Viggen on June 12, 2010, 17:23:52
good to see the notation..... I would think it depends on the type of rocks for adding or subtracting weight to the tank.  Lava rock or other light rocks would decrease weigh.  But I would think tufa (sp) & heavy/dense rocks would add weight. 
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: dirk griffin on June 13, 2010, 14:25:42
A lot of good info on that chart. However,
The tempered glass is different with every company. Many reef ready tanks with holes in the bottom are actually tempered. (If you look closely at the stickers on new ones)
They drill the holes in them and then temper the glass. Also many tanks have non tempered sides and/or back, there is not any uniform answer for many of the tanks.
Another critical question is, when was the tank manufactured??? Some companies changed what kind of glass they used depending on what year the tank was made.
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: Seano Hermano on July 02, 2010, 22:00:48
I can change it Viggen, how would you recommend? Should it be Gallons x 8.35 x tank weight?


I would figure tank volume(in gallons of water) x 8.35(weight of one water gallon) + however many lbs of rock + sand. + empty tank weight. It will vary a bit.

For y 75g I will have 98 lb(empty tank weight) + 75 lb rock + 90 lb sand + water = 889.25 lbs.

This number could be greatly more, depending on how much more rock I want to add.

Mine will be nearing a 1/2 ton(lol). I have a basement. :(

I would also recommend counting in the weight of your tank stand to figure how much weight will be bearing on your floor.

Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: Seano Hermano on July 02, 2010, 22:08:38
good to see the notation..... I would think it depends on the type of rocks for adding or subtracting weight to the tank.  Lava rock or other light rocks would decrease weigh.  But I would think tufa (sp) & heavy/dense rocks would add weight. 
I think I know what you mean, but this could easily be confusing to some.

100 lbs of Lava rock is still 100 lbs. Which is = to 100 lbs of Fiji rock. Most when adding rock to a tank will add rock by the lb & not so much by the space it takes up.

So, if you have a less dense rock, yes it will still take the same amount of space per sq inch. But it is still the same mass. (that being 1 lb of rock 'A' = 1 lb or rock 'b', but they will be different size(in surface area) rocks.)
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: HUNGER on July 02, 2010, 22:19:01
there will always be differance in weight in every ones tank
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: Seano Hermano on July 02, 2010, 22:24:52
there will always be differance in weight in every ones tank

This number could be greatly more, depending on how much more rock I want to add.

I would also recommend counting in the weight of your tank stand

Yup.
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: Boonjob on June 23, 2011, 17:00:16
I would say roughly 8.35-8.55lbs per gallon of water... When adding rock into the equation I would say it is safe to subtract the total rock/sand's mass(weight) from the equivalent water's(mass or weight) to determine the remaining gallons left to add to the weight. Obviously this would not be 100% accurate but since the Live rock does not displace more water then it weighs(hince why it sinks) we can atleast start at that number for a better estimate.

So a 90 gallon tank would still weigh around 912lbs full w/ 90lbs of live rock vs a 90 gallon tank with just water.(@8.35lbs per gallon)
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: DarinSchmidt on June 23, 2011, 18:36:57
yeah, now imagine how heavy my 300g tank weighs, about 3,000lbs +&- some weight for rock and sand........
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: Boonjob on June 23, 2011, 22:28:57
yeah, now imagine how heavy my 300g tank weighs, about 3,000lbs +&- some weight for rock and sand........

yessir, I would imagine special ruling would need to be drawn up for your setting as the wood with all those layers prolly weighs more than an equivalent sized sheet of glass, as well as the stand to support such a mammoth.... it sure would be fun though to get drunk and see which supports we can kick out without bringing the whole tank down... rofl like a drunk dumb marine version of jenga... as long as i didnt have to clean up the mess aswell.
Title: Re: Tank Size, Weight, Dimensions & Temperament Chart
Post by: Boonjob on June 23, 2011, 22:49:58

good to see the notation..... I would think it depends on the type of rocks for adding or subtracting weight to the tank.  Lava rock or other light rocks would decrease weigh.  But I would think tufa (sp) & heavy/dense rocks would add weight. 



The only way this would really apply is if the rock was super dense... however all live rock isn't which is why it is valued for its very porous surfaces(though there are differences in density amongst the different aquaria rock, I dont think you will find a case where it would be a substantial difference.)   

A small very dense rock could add substantial weight to the tank(though we don't use them)

A very large rock with low to proportionate weight would displace more water leading to less water in the tank(less water weight) thus the tank would weigh less overall than compared to the same poundage rock in a few very small compacted dense rock... The smaller rock would take up less volume allowing the tank to hold more water, so the tank would weigh more overall.

I don't think you will find a suitable rock that will displace more water than it weighs as it would float and not sink... so it is very safe to say the rock we use weighs more than it displaces. and though it can weigh more than it's equivalent in water weight its safe to round it at 8-9lbs of live rock for every gallon of salt water +/- a slight percentage for large surfaced or denser rock.