Author Topic: changing reeflo seals (Read 5473 times)

HUNGER · « **on:** December 05, 2011, 21:25:52 »

Reefpete · « **Reply #1 on:** December 05, 2011, 21:32:17 »

Hope it goes well Dave. If you need me to entertain nessa while your working on it, lemme know brother.

Neogenesis · « **Reply #2 on:** December 05, 2011, 21:53:43 »

Very well written instructions......and it's a lot easier to do than one would think. The biggest problem I ran into was getting the impeller off.

Reefpete · « **Reply #3 on:** December 05, 2011, 22:31:04 »

Quote from: Neogenesis on December 05, 2011, 21:53:43

Very well written instructions......and it's a lot easier to do than one would think. The biggest problem I ran into was getting the impeller off.

As I was reading the aforementioned well written instructions, I stopped at the separating the impeller part and looking at the threads of the shaft. I thought couldn't you use a very thin wrap of Teflon tape?

HUNGER · « **Reply #4 on:** December 05, 2011, 22:38:48 »

ya i seen that to i will check mine when i do it u are more than welcome to come over and ur lady ill have beer waiting

DarinSchmidt · « **Reply #5 on:** December 05, 2011, 22:42:32 »

with as rusty as that center bolt was, im surprised he didnt have to use any WD40 or something to get it loose.

The WuSue · « **Reply #6 on:** December 06, 2011, 08:09:33 »

I just did this fun little disassemble about a week ago. Save yourself a lot of time and use this setup to get the impeller off: When the rear shaft is exposed, clamp that into a sturdy vice (I had to have a friend hold the table it was on because mine was quite a bit rustier) and then use a the rubber strap type of pipe wrench to get the impeller off. The rest is really easy to disassemble and you might want to replace the internal bearings while you're in there. They were $7.48 for the pair at this shop in downtown Springfield called Maders.

HUNGER · « **Reply #7 on:** December 06, 2011, 08:12:29 »

ok will look into that

Blown76mav · « **Reply #8 on:** December 06, 2011, 08:39:44 »

Dave,

This is super easy did mine Saturday, all you need is a big straight blade screw driver on the end with the fan to hold the shaft to unscrew the impeller. Mine was rusted so bad the shaft wouldn't turn in the seals untill I broke it free, the impeller came right off due to the stainless nut inside that won't rust. Took all of 20 mins to do.

Reefpete · « **Reply #9 on:** December 06, 2011, 11:14:37 »

Quote from: HUNGER on December 05, 2011, 22:38:48

u are more than welcome to come over and ur lady ill have beer waiting

Ahh, my hero

Reefpete · « **Reply #10 on:** December 06, 2011, 11:15:48 »

Quote from: DarinSchmidt on December 05, 2011, 22:42:32

with as rusty as that center bolt was, im surprised he didnt have to use any WD40 or something to get it loose.

Use PB Blaster, WD40 isn't what it used to be.

DarinSchmidt · « **Reply #11 on:** December 06, 2011, 11:33:48 »

Quote from: Reefpete on December 06, 2011, 11:15:48

Use PB Blaster, WD40 isn't what it used to be.

so true

HUNGER · « **Reply #12 on:** December 06, 2011, 17:45:57 »

Quote from: Reefpete on December 06, 2011, 11:15:48

Use PB Blaster, WD40 isn't what it used to be.

got it

HUNGER · « **Reply #13 on:** December 06, 2011, 17:46:41 »

Quote from: Blown76mav on December 06, 2011, 08:39:44

Dave,

This is super easy did mine Saturday, all you need is a big straight blade screw driver on the end with the fan to hold the shaft to unscrew the impeller. Mine was rusted so bad the shaft wouldn't turn in the seals untill I broke it free, the impeller came right off due to the stainless nut inside that won't rust. Took all of 20 mins to do.

sweet did it hlep on ur micro bubbles urs isnt as bad as mine are

Blown76mav · « **Reply #14 on:** December 06, 2011, 21:26:14 »

Quote from: HUNGER on December 06, 2011, 17:46:41

sweet did it hlep on ur micro bubbles urs isnt as bad as mine are

Crystal clear water

and no salt spray halfway across the tile floor.

HUNGER · « **Reply #15 on:** December 06, 2011, 22:48:01 »

sweet thats what i wanted to hear

Blown76mav · « **Reply #16 on:** December 06, 2011, 23:16:24 »

Also don't be alarmed, the seals don't seal to the shaft. They seal to each other to keep the water off the shaft. It took me a few minutes of head scratching to see how they would work.....

Neogenesis · « **Reply #17 on:** December 07, 2011, 00:03:07 »

LOL.....at least I don't feel so bad now.....I did the same thing.

Reefpete · « **Reply #18 on:** December 07, 2011, 05:57:09 »

Quote from: HUNGER on December 06, 2011, 17:46:41

sweet did it hlep on ur micro bubbles urs isnt as bad as mine are

Duh, of course its going to decrease your micro bubbles.

HUNGER · « **Reply #19 on:** December 07, 2011, 08:09:35 »

Quote from: Reefpete on December 07, 2011, 05:57:09

Duh, of course its going to decrease your micro bubbles.

hey they better or ill be pissed

HUNGER · « **Reply #20 on:** December 07, 2011, 08:10:03 »

Quote from: Blown76mav on December 06, 2011, 23:16:24

Also don't be alarmed, the seals don't seal to the shaft. They seal to each other to keep the water off the shaft. It took me a few minutes of head scratching to see how they would work.....

ok cool

HUNGER · « **Reply #21 on:** February 12, 2012, 17:45:03 »

well put new seals in and new impeller and now it leaks even more any ideas?

Neogenesis · « **Reply #22 on:** February 12, 2012, 20:25:42 »

question is....where is it leaking from, around the shaft?

HUNGER · « **Reply #23 on:** February 12, 2012, 20:49:11 »

Yup u dont even need to turn it on to see it leaking its like the 2bulk seals are not sealing up

Neogenesis · « **Reply #24 on:** February 12, 2012, 20:54:19 »

Did you make sure that the seal in the pump housing is fully seated? Also, did you use anything on the inside to ensure a good seal? I personally used a little silicone aound the outside edge just to make sure it was sealed good.

HUNGER · « **Reply #25 on:** February 12, 2012, 21:43:52 »

Ya its seated as far as it can be and I didn't use silicone on it have no clue where to put it to I would have to think its right were the 2bulk seals meet is where its leaking

Twizted1 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 12, 2012, 22:56:20 »

Can you tell if the shaft was bent or cracked in anyway? That would cause an improper seal on the shaft. Just a thought.

Blown76mav · « **Reply #27 on:** February 12, 2012, 22:59:10 »

Quote from: twizted1 on February 12, 2012, 22:56:20

Can you tell if the shaft was bent or cracked in anyway? That would cause an improper seal on the shaft. Just a thought.

The shaft doesn't come into contact with the seals. The two seals seal against each other.

Neogenesis · « **Reply #28 on:** February 12, 2012, 23:08:38 »

Is it leaking when sitting....or only when running....have had that problem before

Blown76mav · « **Reply #29 on:** February 12, 2012, 23:53:54 »

Dave, How far in did you install the ceramic seal into the impeller and did you reuse the rubber seal around it or install a new one? My ceramic seal sticks out about 1/8-1/4 inch, about half the thickness of the seal. The spring seal should sit flush in the housing and the spring side should touch the impeller when the impeller was tightened on the shaft. Before you put the housing on you should be able to see the spring seal compress and tell its sealing.

HUNGER · « **Reply #30 on:** February 13, 2012, 08:25:25 »

Quote from: Neogenesis on February 12, 2012, 23:08:38

Is it leaking when sitting....or only when running....have had that problem before

both

HUNGER · « **Reply #31 on:** February 13, 2012, 08:26:49 »

Quote from: Blown76mav on February 12, 2012, 23:53:54

Dave, How far in did you install the ceramic seal into the impeller and did you reuse the rubber seal around it or install a new one? My ceramic seal sticks out about 1/8-1/4 inch, about half the thickness of the seal. The spring seal should sit flush in the housing and the spring side should touch the impeller when the impeller was tightened on the shaft. Before you put the housing on you should be able to see the spring seal compress and tell its sealing.

its all new and both are in as far as they can go yes when I put the impeller I can see the spring compress

Neogenesis · « **Reply #32 on:** February 13, 2012, 10:02:14 »

I would tear it back apart, inspect both seals to make sure neither got damaged....and reassemble. If you still can't get it to seal, call or email Reeflo, they have been great to work with in my experience.

HUNGER · « **Reply #33 on:** February 13, 2012, 10:11:18 »

I have taken it apart at least 6 times. Sunday to make sure every thing was ok emailed them yesterday will call today

Neogenesis · « **Reply #34 on:** February 13, 2012, 10:15:04 »

Sorry to hear this. I didn't have this problem with my Barracuda, however when I purchased one of their hybrid pumps, I leaked like mad. The ceramic part in the impeller on that one wasn't installed flush from the factory which caused it to leak only when running. It would seal when sitting still.

HUNGER · « **Reply #35 on:** February 13, 2012, 12:00:11 »

Heck I even flip the ceramic. Seal around on side has a grove and the other doesn't tryed both was still no luck

HUNGER · « **Reply #36 on:** February 14, 2012, 23:01:46 »

well just sent the pump to reeflo 75 to fix it plus shiping witch isnt to bad 22 bucks

HUNGER · « **Reply #37 on:** April 04, 2012, 20:57:45 »

Ok well sent the pump to reeflo and they said the bearings went out and they couldnt fix it so they cut me a hell of a deal on a new pump and i had them send the old pump back too
so who do we know who can fix the bearings in the motor? ?

Boonjob · « **Reply #38 on:** April 04, 2012, 21:10:42 »

Couldn't fix it?!?! it's just a bearing... pull it and press in new....

Boonjob · « **Reply #39 on:** April 04, 2012, 21:11:29 »

Boom.

http://www.reefaddicts.com/content.php/338-Dart-pump-wailing-replacing-seals-and-bearings

HUNGER · « **Reply #40 on:** April 04, 2012, 23:19:11 »

Hi David, We received the Wahoo pump that you sent into us for repair. Unfortunately, the pump is about 6 years old and the bearings were not repairable in the motor because the front bearing could not be removed.
thats part of the email ok who wants to do it diy work shop?

Neogenesis · « **Reply #41 on:** April 05, 2012, 10:00:30 »

If they couldn't get the bearings off.....you may have a real tough time with that one. I'm guessing it's rusted solid......but that's just a guess. Please take pics and document.....I want to see the carnage....lol

The WuSue · « **Reply #42 on:** April 05, 2012, 10:25:13 »

It's certainly fixable, but you might well be running into diminished returns. The amount of fenegalling required to get the bearings out is probably going to warp other parts of the motor... Either way, I'd love to take a look at it. If you can get it back in time, please feel free to bring it over for the meeting.

Boonjob · « **Reply #43 on:** April 05, 2012, 10:25:36 »

Yes please upload some pics of the bearings and shaft... My thoughts would be the shaft has more damage than the bearings... I've had a few stick but never to the point where I can't get them pulled one way or another. If the shaft is rusted or damaged it may be a different story.

If it is just the bearing
Air chisel would make very short work of any of the bearings in that motor...

HUNGER · « **Reply #44 on:** April 05, 2012, 13:05:43 »

Ya i would just cut the bearings off

HUNGER · « **Reply #45 on:** April 05, 2012, 13:06:11 »

Ill bring it to the meeting

Boonjob · « **Reply #46 on:** April 05, 2012, 13:16:26 »

Quote

Ya i would just cut the bearings off

Lol, I was just playing on what wusue said about causing more damage to the motor/unit in the process of getting the bearing off....

Tannerite also comes to mind

Twizted1 · « **Reply #47 on:** April 05, 2012, 15:53:08 »

Quote from: Boonjob on April 05, 2012, 13:16:26

Lol, I was just playing on what wusue said about causing more damage to the motor/unit in the process of getting the bearing off....

In that case I have a plasma cutter that'll make quick work of that ol' bearin.

HUNGER · « **Reply #48 on:** April 05, 2012, 16:10:40 »

Heck im all for blowing it up if it cant be fix haha

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Author Topic: changing reeflo seals (Read 5473 times)