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Offline wolfeden3

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sea hare?
« on: December 09, 2009, 08:46:54 »
I just purchased a sea hare yesterday. After acclimating it for 3 hours i decided to put him in my tank. He/she started mowing down the hair algae. After waking up today it seems he/she has completely disappeared from my tank. Is that normal?  Any comment?
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Re: sea hare?
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 08:49:12 »
if you have the algae problem i had, i would say the algae ate the sea hare...
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 09:29:02 »
The sea hare I had was mostly nocturnal. He would bury himself in the sand during the day.

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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 09:34:58 »
yes, they hide a lot he will come out.....if it dies be sure to remove asap

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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 10:12:50 »
what type, and where did you purchase it?  I think i'm in the market, starting to get some hair algae growing... :(
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 10:33:20 »
I would recommend trying to find the source of the algae and fix the problem before you add something like this. If you don’t fix the problem, as much as you remove it will just come back. Test the water and check the age of your lights.

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 15:26:34 »
What are magnesium levels?  Elevated magnesium can help with hair algae.  The sea hare worked for me for a short while.  He may have overindulged himself and died.  Not real fun getting that 'goop' out of my tank, which I think then caused more algae.

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Re: sea hare?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 16:28:38 »
What are magnesium levels?  Elevated magnesium can help with hair algae.  The sea hare worked for me for a short while.  He may have overindulged himself and died.  Not real fun getting that 'goop' out of my tank, which I think then caused more algae.
Elevated levls of mag will help get rid of the hair algae?

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Re: sea hare?
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 17:40:19 »
lights are new and I am still using tap water (pretty sure that doesn't help). I will have to get mag. supplement to help. but he/she sea hare that is came out again is cleaning like crazy. thanks for all the input,
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Re: sea hare?
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 18:01:35 »
i would test the watter and cut back on the lights  how long are they on for   
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Re: sea hare?
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 19:37:59 »
last meeting i had my water tested and the phos. was only .56 lazy tested it for me. Before that it was well over 5.0!! off the scales!! lights are on for 6 hours. And yes he/she only comes out at night.
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2009, 19:42:18 »
Elevated levls of mag will help get rid of the hair algae?

About 4 days with magnesium at 1600 (dosing with magnesium sulfate...not magnesium chloride) will kill off byropsis.  Using magnesium chloride doesn't seem to do anything.  For normal hair algae, I've had no success.

I agree that you should find the source of your algae problem.  A sea hare will just eat the algae, poo out the spores, and the spores will just regrow if the conditions are right.

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Re: sea hare?
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 20:44:21 »
instead of spending money on a sea hare i would save it to go towards an rodi unit to help on the amount of phosphates and other random things going into the system. everytime you top off or waterchange you are just concentrating the stuff that the algae needs to thrive. after killing the source a sea hare would decimate the hair algae!

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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2009, 20:47:59 »
instead of spending money on a sea hare i would save it to go towards an rodi unit to help on the amount of phosphates and other random things going into the system. everytime you top off or waterchange you are just concentrating the stuff that the algae needs to thrive. after killing the source a sea hare would decimate the hair algae!

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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2009, 20:53:17 »
Oh yeah, tap water may be the issue.  I used RODI for a while, but then put my tank into 'standby' mode for about 2 years just keeping the few fish alive, and I used tap water.  Problem is that phosphates and such concentrate AND get into the rock.  So even though water new water was RODI and tested great, the crap was leeching out of the rock, and the algae uses it before it gets into the water.  Again, my personal nightmare with this stuff.

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Re: sea hare?
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2009, 16:28:57 »
Your seahare will hide during the day and come out at night.  We leave our actinics on for an hour after the daylights go out and we usually see ours then.

I think I have a strange variety this time that only likes glass algae, hair algae and cyano. He's a champ at that stuff, because there is zilch in my tank now.  But I worry because he's shrinking a bit and won't eat the algae sheets I put in there.  And he won't eat caulerpa or halimeda as far as I can tell, either. 

I totally agree with dealing with the root cause of your algae problems.  Algae has given me more headaches in this hobby than anything else until I finally gave in and did what everyone told me to do  ;D
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Re: sea hare?
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2009, 04:47:14 »
Your seahare will hide during the day and come out at night.  We leave our actinics on for an hour after the daylights go out and we usually see ours then.

I think I have a strange variety this time that only likes glass algae, hair algae and cyano. He's a champ at that stuff, because there is zilch in my tank now.  But I worry because he's shrinking a bit and won't eat the algae sheets I put in there.  And he won't eat caulerpa or halimeda as far as I can tell, either. 

I totally agree with dealing with the root cause of your algae problems.  Algae has given me more headaches in this hobby than anything else until I finally gave in and did what everyone told me to do  ;D

I have found that the sea hare will not typically eat the "Sea Weed Salad", but will eat algae wafers and spirulina pellets. And no they do not eat marine plants, calupera, halimeda, brush algae, cheatomorpha and other "desireable"  algaes. They do however eat diatoms, cyano bacteria, byriopsis, and other undesirable algae. At first they generally hide until they adjust to your tank, after that they  are usually busy all the time. They are however extremely sensitive to parameter changes, so slow acclimation is recommended. When their food source starts to diminish they will hide during the day and only come out at night to conserve energy. The Sea Hare will eat algae on everything, rocks, glass, sand, etc., but focuses mainly on glass and sand. If you have a rock issue, the Lettuce Slug focuses on that. But in the end,  get to the root of the problem, lighting, tap-water, overfeeding, flow, etc. The creatures that consume these "problems" are there to aid you, it is up to the hobbyist to find the underlying issue and fix the problem!

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Re: sea hare?
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2009, 12:29:02 »
Justin, I haven't seen this dude on the sand ever.  Those conchs you sold me are doing a bang-up job there, though.  :drink

I presume he's doing ok though, since he's out and about more than usual - even during the day now.  I just don't want to starve him.  These little guys are not pretty but they are really worth their weight in gold when it comes to keeping the tank clean. 
-Steph
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