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Offline Baggerhog

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My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« on: March 02, 2007, 10:09:49 »
Its awesome I love it.

Andy
Batavia, Ohio
500 Reef with 320 gallon sump setup

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2007, 12:53:26 »
Where did you find the miniaturized salt buckets?  ;)
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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2007, 13:39:57 »
Very nice....looks like you may need a ladder to change the collection cup. Nice skimmer!!!

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2007, 17:32:32 »
Nice.  What type of pumps run it?

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2007, 18:17:07 »
It has two ocean runner 3700s as recirc and a genx 1300 gph toned down to 700 gph with a gate valve. Thanks everybody. The mini salt buckets came from dr fosters I did my own personal power buy and bought 4 buckets and ended up paying $34 a bucket delivered to my door. I love that company.
Andy
Batavia, Ohio
500 Reef with 320 gallon sump setup

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2007, 20:11:02 »
Time to mod those pumps!  MESHWHEEL MOD!  MESHWHEEL MOD!!!

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2007, 19:10:53 »
Did one last night and I think he's about to put the 2nd one in soon.

Joe

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2007, 20:26:29 »
what size of tank is it?

also where did you get the mini 2x4's

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2007, 21:00:28 »
I have a two tanks on one system. I have a 150 gallon reef tank and a 92 gallon corner reef tank. They are plumbed into the basement. I have a 55 gallon refugium and a 180 gallon sump. I am not sure what mini 2 x 4s you are referring to.
Andy
Batavia, Ohio
500 Reef with 320 gallon sump setup

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2007, 04:58:11 »
I think that was along the lines of the "mini salt buckets". ;)

NICE hardware !
I'm drooling over here !

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2007, 22:49:54 »
Thanks, I have had it running for a while and I still love it.
Andy
Batavia, Ohio
500 Reef with 320 gallon sump setup

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2007, 01:23:30 »
Have you had any problems with PH swings in the low end using such an aggressive skimmer of that size?


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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2007, 10:44:22 »
I did have some ph swings but I attribute that mainly to topping off with a small Kalkenstien. I now have a DIY kalkenstein that is 5 foot tall and 4 inches in diameter. I am using a quite one 4000 as the recirc pump. since making the switch I have not had any problems. I had never heard of a skimmer causing a ph swing how does that work as I am still somewhat new to the hobby and still learning. Thanks again to Joe Ayers he helped me build the new DIY kalkenstien.
Andy
Batavia, Ohio
500 Reef with 320 gallon sump setup

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2007, 16:53:08 »
if anything, i think the skimmer would raise the ph some because it would oxygenate the water getting excess CO2 out that can drag down the ph.

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2007, 21:24:10 »
I did have some ph swings but I attribute that mainly to topping off with a small Kalkenstien. I now have a DIY kalkenstein that is 5 foot tall and 4 inches in diameter. I am using a quite one 4000 as the recirc pump. since making the switch I have not had any problems. I had never heard of a skimmer causing a ph swing how does that work as I am still somewhat new to the hobby and still learning. Thanks again to Joe Ayers he helped me build the new DIY kalkenstien.

Maybe Joe would be willing to show us how he built the DIY Kalkenstien (Joe's version, not CORA's) at an upcoming meeting? Sounds nice. Do you have any pictures of your 5 ft Kalkwasser reactor to share?

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2007, 21:49:51 »
Be glad to. Here is a 2 minute drawing. Figure for every 19" of pipe you will have 1 gallon of kalk filled topoff water.


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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2007, 23:23:24 »
why do you need the reactor to be 4' tall?

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2007, 00:23:44 »
Be glad to. Here is a 2 minute drawing. Figure for every 19" of pipe you will have 1 gallon of kalk filled topoff water.



Would you be interested in giving a demo at an upcoming meeting? Not sure how much your supplies would cost. I attached a picture of my kalk reactor....its about a foot tall (with numerous 1 gallon chambers) and I have to manually feed it to my reef twice daily :(







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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2007, 00:39:31 »
I would like to build one of these. I have most of the supplies. PM me if you would be willing to do a demo and give me a list of exactly what parts you used.

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2007, 09:13:47 »
why do you need the reactor to be 4' tall?

It's not 'needed', but the problem Andy was having is that his sump has a surface area of 72x24. so if he has a 1/4" drop and then his topoff kicks on he has to refill the tank with 2 gallons of water. Using the kalkenstein he would get <1 gallon of high PH kalk filled water, then it would just top off with straight RODI that is passing through the reactor, but not getting much mixing. By building the reactor taller he gets about 4 gallons of Kalk filled water to topoff with. He was having problems keeping his PH above 8 so he needed the higher PH topoff water.

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2007, 09:17:17 »
I have most of what I would need to do a Demo. I will put together a complete list of parts that I use if anyone wants to build one at the same time.

Joe

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2007, 10:03:31 »
Here is what I used. My advice is look through your box of random PVC/fittings and adjust accordingly to save money. If you already have a pump that you can use, that will help, just need to adjust a little.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b343/jpayers/KRList.jpg

Also, if you do not already have an autotop off, (float switch/solinoid or float switch/pump) then you will need one for this to work properly.

If you are interested I can put one together at a meeting. Or if you guys want to build one then we can do that.

Joe

slandis3

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2007, 13:38:29 »
Anyone wanting to do one of these  Menards has 4" pvc on sale for $10 for 10'

slandis3

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2007, 13:43:53 »
anyone who wants to build one  let me know im going to order unseals this weekend. Just let me know what size you need and how many you want

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2007, 14:17:57 »
Hey. If no one wants to split the PVC with you I will. I want to build a CO2 reactor for my freshwater tank. I won't be able to get it from you until the meeting though.

Joe

slandis3

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2007, 14:21:36 »
Thats fine. Thats what i figured i would bring everything with me to the meeting.

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2007, 18:26:23 »
Give me a day.  I might be able to get 4" PVC at a lower cost......Free if anyone is interested.  What lengths would you be looking for.  I think the kalkenstein is 18"?

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2007, 23:11:56 »
Anyone with a large water volume with med-high evaporation would want one in the 4-5 foot size. This is working great for me and have had no problems since I installed it.
Andy
Batavia, Ohio
500 Reef with 320 gallon sump setup

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2007, 23:46:40 »
Anyone with a large water volume with med-high evaporation would want one in the 4-5 foot size. This is working great for me and have had no problems since I installed it.

Do you mind posting pictures of your kalk reactor?

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2007, 23:49:49 »
How much kalk do you add and how often?

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2007, 08:19:51 »
I will post a pic tonight and I added 20oz of kalk to the Kalkenstein. I have not added anymore as of yet as I have only had this running for 2 weeks now. I am wanting a uniseal to put in the side so I can put a ph meter in but I cant find one that fits probe if anybody knows where i can get one let me know. I tried savko already and they dont have one.
Andy
Batavia, Ohio
500 Reef with 320 gallon sump setup

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2007, 09:17:02 »
I will post a pic tonight and I added 20oz of kalk to the Kalkenstein. I have not added anymore as of yet as I have only had this running for 2 weeks now. I am wanting a uniseal to put in the side so I can put a ph meter in but I cant find one that fits probe if anybody knows where i can get one let me know. I tried savko already and they dont have one.

You can purchase pH probe fittings from GEO.

 http://geosreef.com/Parts.html


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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2007, 09:52:02 »
is it a uniseal?
Andy
Batavia, Ohio
500 Reef with 320 gallon sump setup

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2007, 10:48:30 »
is it a uniseal?

Not sure, it  is the same kind  as used on all Geo calcium and kalk reactors. You may be able to see a picture of it by downloading the user's manual from Geo's website or looking closely at the pictures on the website.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2007, 10:52:18 by aquavista99 »


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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2007, 23:42:15 »
Thanks for sharing! Who makes your skimmer?

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2007, 10:17:50 »
It is made by Aquamedic it is the Turbo 5000 Twin model. It is on Premium Aquatics web site. It has been great. I am very happy with what it pulls.
Andy
Batavia, Ohio
500 Reef with 320 gallon sump setup

slandis3

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2007, 20:21:17 »
What timer are you useing to controll this? How many times a day do you turn the pump on and for how long does it run?

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2007, 13:24:24 »
Not 100% sure what Andy is doing but I use a digital timer I got at meijer.  I have it turn on for 1 minute at noon and midnight. Just look for a timer that can be set to the minute and not every 15 minutes.

Joe

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2007, 04:41:16 »
I did have some ph swings but I attribute that mainly to topping off with a small Kalkenstien. I now have a DIY kalkenstein that is 5 foot tall and 4 inches in diameter. I am using a quite one 4000 as the recirc pump. since making the switch I have not had any problems. I had never heard of a skimmer causing a ph swing how does that work as I am still somewhat new to the hobby and still learning. Thanks again to Joe Ayers he helped me build the new DIY kalkenstien.

Well,
I have absolutely ZERO scientific proof or data to back any claims, or show how it does it a tall.
All I can tell you is it happened to me and several of my reefing buddies.
It went away with the addition of calcium for some and simply a liquid buffer for others.
There used to be alot f threads about this subject buzzing around the forums.

I wish I could get some data on how and why it does that though.

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2007, 10:47:14 »
perhaps some peoples houses have more co2 in the air. i.e.  if you have a vent free gas furnace in a coral propagation greenhouse your air can actually lower the PH of the water so you always want a vented gas furnace in a coral greenhouse.

So if you have a large skimmer  in theory your air could affect a PH drop if your air is not properly vented in your house. 

Scott

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Re: My new skimmer Turbo 5000 Twin
« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2008, 21:19:20 »
Just wanted to bring this thread to the top so anyyone wanting to see the skimmer when it was in action can. This is the skimmer that truely cleaned my tanks up. I am a equipment junkie and when I had the chance to get a skimmer even bigger well I was all for it.
Andy
Batavia, Ohio
500 Reef with 320 gallon sump setup

 

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