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Offline Reefinmike

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Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« on: August 13, 2010, 17:37:20 »
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not to try to make you change your mind, but...

I haven't had good luck with seachem. It never dissolves fully for me, the water is cloudy for 2+ hours, then it settles and leaves a deposit on the bottom of the bucket.
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Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2010, 17:44:34 »
not to try to make you change your mind, but...

I haven't had good luck with seachem. It never dissolves fully for me, the water is cloudy for 2+ hours, then it settles and leaves a deposit on the bottom of the bucket.

I have the same with coral pro. I just use a pump and tubing to mix with a air pump to bubble the water for a couple few hours and then I'm ok.
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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2010, 21:01:25 »
Hope you don't mind I split this topic out from the Group buy because thought it would be good discussion

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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2010, 21:06:09 »
Due to the amount of Magnesium and Calcium in quality reef salt it typically takes longer to dissolve and precipitates easily. Instant Ocean for example has much less and will dissolve almost instantly and rarely will any precipitation occur.

To help combat with reef grade mixes, really good water movement and slowly pouring in the salt will result in a much cleaner mix.

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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2010, 21:15:35 »
Due to the amount of Magnesium and Calcium in quality reef salt it typically takes longer to dissolve and precipitates easily. Instant Ocean for example has much less and will dissolve almost instantly and rarely will any precipitation occur.

To help combat with reef grade mixes, really good water movement and slowly pouring in the salt will result in a much cleaner mix.

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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2010, 21:35:52 »
very nice brian
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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2010, 21:49:30 »
not to try to make you change your mind, but...

I haven't had good luck with seachem. It never dissolves fully for me, the water is cloudy for 2+ hours, then it settles and leaves a deposit on the bottom of the bucket.

How it desolves is really not an inication of quality.  But I have a real good mixing tub.  Runs with a big Iwaki pump.  So I'm not concerned.

I am a user of Rscp, and I'm having a problem with my tank.  Poor polyp extension, degrading sps health, after checking and checking things, I changed to a diff bucket of Rscp,  thing took a quick turn for the good. 

I talked to a few others, and others have had the same problem with RSCP.   So I'm going to try SeaChem.   Other than mixing,  people really like that salt.

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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2010, 21:58:52 »
I wonder if they have had isolated issues and it is the reason for the recent "Re-Formulation"

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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2010, 02:59:35 »
Due to the amount of Magnesium and Calcium in quality reef salt it typically takes longer to dissolve and precipitates easily. Instant Ocean for example has much less and will dissolve almost instantly and rarely will any precipitation occur.

To help combat with reef grade mixes, really good water movement and slowly pouring in the salt will result in a much cleaner mix.

No doubt!  Though I will complain on the mixing time... I have no problem running a mix a day or two ahead of time to make sure it is good and saturated and know the levels before I add to the tank.

As for Wall Tank's mixing setup.  Can I get one?!  ;D  I want to make one similar to what he has.  It looked awesome when I saw it!  Just like what I am wanting to put together.
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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2010, 10:33:50 »
If you guys are aerating your salt mix for 24 hours prior to use, the way it mixes shouldn't be a concern :)

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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2010, 10:40:48 »
i mix in a trash can for about 24 30 hours with a mag drive 7 never had a problem after i started doing it this way
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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2010, 23:54:17 »
well, I started using the RSCP, and I still cant get it to be completely clear. I ran two 5g buckets with two mj1200s in each for 48 hours. The WC clouded the tank for an hour or so. However, I have been seeing some great PE on the meteor shower coral that I was able to bring back from near death.

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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2010, 00:02:50 »
u could have some off balance in ur tank when u mix
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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2010, 00:13:24 »
it never clears when in a bucket of fresh ro/di water... it clears when it gets in the tank.

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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2010, 00:16:43 »
I make 35 gallons at a time for water change, airate 24 hours, then add salt very slowly mixing with mag 5 within an hour its clear and ready to go, no cloud to the water at all. had very good luck with rscp, on the other hand ive had numerous problem with Seachem Reef, JMO but rscp is much better over all, there again JMO

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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2010, 03:09:01 »
I use rscp. For my 75 I mix 5 gal at a time. I run it with an OLD power head. I do that for 5 to 24 hours, depends on how long ahead I plan. It will disolve within an hour or so, but I let it blend a bit.

Rscp is awesome except for the long dissolve time, that is if you compare it to IO. IMHO
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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2010, 09:19:39 »
I been having some problems using seachem reefsalt too much calcium,magnessium, phosphate and low on alk, and pH. i still have one left seat in corner just bought two bucket rscp from group buy.

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Re: Precipitation in Salt Mixing bucket
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2010, 10:50:52 »
it never clears when in a bucket of fresh ro/di water... it clears when it gets in the tank.
if it clears in the tank should be ok   have u tested the new salt and see if its off on anything
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