I went to Scott's last weekend and got a Duncan frag. really nice setup and and very nice to talk to. We are actually thinking of going and getting another Duncan. It started to open up about a hour after i put it into the tank. It was fully open the next day. He has some other stuff i was eyeballing while i was there but i didn't have time to look around ( had to go get my son). I will definitely go back for some more frags. A++