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Title: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 01, 2016, 20:15:48
Have been out of the hobby for multiple years, but getting back into it.  Purchased a JBJ 28 nano cube, from Gerber's.  Wife wouldn't let me start any bigger.  Everything is going pretty well so far a couple little hiccups but nothing to bad. 
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Keith92 on August 01, 2016, 20:20:15
Welcome back. Post some pics
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 04, 2016, 13:55:26
(https://ohioreef.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1249.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh506%2FMatt_Goins%2F20160804_094735_zpsyh67expy.jpg&hash=d61ba4457e60e71e09c16b99ba622a1180a1fb14) (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/Matt_Goins/media/20160804_094735_zpsyh67expy.jpg.html)

Took this photo of the tank yesterday.  There is a bubble tip sea anemone hiding behind the rock work.  Unfortunately I haven't been able to coax him out yet. 
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Kenn on August 05, 2016, 15:37:21
Just curious.. How long has the tank been cycled?

Welcome back to the hobby!
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 06, 2016, 23:03:34
Thanks!  The tank will have been up 7 weeks on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 07, 2016, 21:47:40
How often should I be feeding my anemone?  I was told twice a week, but when I attempted to feed it today it didn't seem very interested.  Is there something I should be looking for?  A cue as to when to feed it? 
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: mtamorrow on August 07, 2016, 22:17:53
I feed mine a couple times a month if I remember (https://ohioreef.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20160808%2F10aee73a5d1247b60b50e4a085a5947a.jpg&hash=5b6b8d8d0c491204d215e429901e59fbba3fb163)


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Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: mtamorrow on August 09, 2016, 06:40:22
Just fed my rose bubble and mini carpet some Atlantic salmon last night. They eat that every time.


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Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 09, 2016, 12:31:34
I'll have to give that a try.  Speedy, kids picked the name, just isn't interested in the krill I've been offering to it.  Right now he's hanging upside down in a little cave like area.  Not sure how I'm going to get it to him, yet.
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Grymtooth on August 09, 2016, 12:33:37
I've been trying to figure out the feeding of an anemone as well. What I have been doing is weekly tank feeding of LRS Reef Frenzy Nano, and putting a piece of raw, shelled, veined shrimp that I got a Meijers into my defroster as well. Seems letting the LRS be broadcast in the tank tells the anem that it's time to eat. Granted, that's just what I have seen so far, I could be underfeeding mine, but definitely "seeding" a tank with some "yummy" food (oyster eggs, fish eggs, clam juice, etc) definitely gets mine in the mood to eat, and he wastes no time.

BTW: Welcome back to the hobby! And I'll admit, I have been enjoying the AIO tanks but we are starting to grow out of it already. If you have time, definitely post your tank and updates in the "Member Tank Profiles". I have been using that to keep a very loose journal of my tank.

Jordan
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Kenn on August 10, 2016, 09:31:06
I would suggest adding more rubble / live rock. Not alot, just some place for the nem to shake off the shock of its new surroundings.

I only fed my nem "chunky" food about once a week.


Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 10, 2016, 11:02:15
(https://ohioreef.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1249.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh506%2FMatt_Goins%2Fc16276de-e8f0-4b65-b7ea-16e1004f109c_zpsg3hsgmxs.jpg&hash=03f135ac0aa991c6b65a5751d376e3a45ad877f2) (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/Matt_Goins/media/c16276de-e8f0-4b65-b7ea-16e1004f109c_zpsg3hsgmxs.jpg.html)

Tank with added live rock.

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Speedy in his current location pretending to be a chandelier.

Having a small algae bloom.  Apparently I hadn't set up my protein skimmer correctly so it wasn't skimming.  It has been corrected.
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Kenn on August 10, 2016, 14:07:43
Wow..you are quick ☺
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 11, 2016, 06:31:33
Nope just made a lot of mistakes in the past, and attempting to learn from them this time, lol.
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 19, 2016, 11:03:51
Added two new corals to the tank, a cabbage leather and a zoa, not sure what type.  They seem to be doing alright currently, I put them in on Wednesday.  Had a question on the placement of the leather, however.  Is it to low in the tank?  I read they like high light and medium to high flow.  My tank isn't very deep so I'm not sure if it is close enough to the light.  Also I'm currently just running the two pumps that came with the nano cube.  I turned off the wave maker as it killed a couple of clown fish, which really stunk. 

Picture of full rock setup with new corals in there current home.

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Close up of what I believe is a mico star, about the size of a dime, maybe a bit smaller.

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Closer image of Cabbage Leather and Zoa.

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Thanks for any insights. 

Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Steve on August 19, 2016, 16:42:45
Just mt 2 cents, I doubt if your wave maker killed your clowns. Most likely they died and were sucked into/onto it. Healthy clowns would be able to swim away from pump. Your leather should be fine and nice looking zoas.
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Kenn on August 19, 2016, 18:29:30
I would be happy to donate a coral or two in support of a fellow citizen of Centerville :)
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Kenn on August 19, 2016, 18:31:58
Just mt 2 cents, I doubt if your wave maker killed your clowns. Most likely they died and were sucked into/onto it. Healthy clowns would be able to swim away from pump. Your leather should be fine and nice looking zoas.

+1
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Keith92 on August 19, 2016, 18:33:09
Sounds like some southern prejudice against us Tipp City reefers. Lol
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 19, 2016, 20:43:08
Pretty sure it was the wave maker.  The water was showing good at home and again when I had it checked at Gerber's.  They were fairly small around nickle size.  I was assuming they were babies.  I had bought two and the anemone, and the next morning both of them were just on the sand dead, no marks or anything.  Took them back thinking maybe sick, got two more and the next morning they had passed too.  Left the wave-maker on and a couple weeks later, water still reading good, picked up a bigger clown this time about two and a half inches.  He was fine when I went to bed and the next day he was also dead, but he had what I took to be trauma to the head.  Have turned off the wave maker so the pumps just run nonstop.  The anemone seems happier, but haven't purchased any more fish to test my theory.

Amphipod's wouldn't be able to kill a clown fish, right?  I watched them steal some krill from the anemone, but I wouldn't think they could kill a fish.  Nothing else is in the tank so if it's not the wave maker I don't know what it could be. 

Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 19, 2016, 20:44:50
Thanks Steve!  The zoas are really nice.
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Kenn on August 20, 2016, 12:33:36
Sounds like some southern prejudice against us Tipp City reefers. Lol

Not at all ... Well, maybe a little :)
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Kenn on August 20, 2016, 12:36:46
Just curious... Have you checked you basics again? Ammonia etc

Maybe a cycle spike. Just throwing it out there
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 20, 2016, 13:56:37
That's what I had thought too, but nothing.  Everything was showing 0 were it needed too.  I figured if I was going to lose something to tank parameters that the anemone would have gone first. Only other thing I could think of was I have an emerald crab in the tank, but I've seen what it looks like if they get a fish.  These looked fine just dead.  Might have been something I'm not seeing, but at this point don't know what it would have been.
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Kenn on August 20, 2016, 21:13:46
Well. This is certainly a conundrum.

My last shot in the dark... Ph?
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 21, 2016, 09:38:12
It's reading good.  Not sure.  I'm not adding any fish anytime soon, so I don't think it matters just yet.
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Humphrey on August 21, 2016, 11:02:53
How are you acclimating the fish?
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 21, 2016, 14:23:13
The first two were drip acclimated with the anemone.  Took about three hours, seemed fine when I put them in.  The other two little one's and the big one, I just floated for thirty minutes then they were released into the tank.  They also appeared fine until morning.  Yeah, can't say with a hundred percent certainty what happened.  Just stinks that so many clowns have been lost.  The clowns were all tank raised, and so I don't think it was stress from being captured from the ocean and then transferred.  All the clowns appeared healthy when purchased and when released into the tank, all ate frozen mysis.  They were all on the small side except the last, he was a big one about two and a half inches.
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Humphrey on August 21, 2016, 16:19:19
Can be evasive for sure.

Another idea...  Where do you keep your salinity?  Many of the fish stores keep it at less than 1.020 and the jump to 1.026 can be too big for some fish even in three hours. 

I think last I bought from Gerbers it was 1.019 though I can't remember for sure.
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Humphrey on August 21, 2016, 16:21:12
Have gone down in salinity with fish pretty quick, but up can be problematic. Guidance is .002/day but I'm not sure if this is conventional wisdom or fact based.
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 21, 2016, 21:44:00
Could be I try to keep it between 1.021 and 1.022.  Not exactly sure the salinity that day however.  I will definitely be checking the LFS and my water to make sure they are the same or really close.  Thanks for the heads up, I frequent Gerber's and will have to make sure that I don't add anything if the salinity is to far off.



Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 21, 2016, 21:49:55
Hoping to get help with identifying these two.  I found them when I brought the rock home and not sure if they are something good, or something I should be concerned with.

(https://ohioreef.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1249.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh506%2FMatt_Goins%2Fb556f305-79cf-4dc8-b0f5-5d5bde3bc19c_zpscuxj1g24.jpg&hash=b2680d4d72ee39b155804b0d9a2df92d0de766dc) (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/Matt_Goins/media/b556f305-79cf-4dc8-b0f5-5d5bde3bc19c_zpscuxj1g24.jpg.html)

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: lazylivin on August 21, 2016, 23:13:31
They are manjoe anemones. (Pest) remove them and watch for new ones
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Grymtooth on August 22, 2016, 00:21:10
I thought the top one looked like a zoa of some sort myself, hard to tell without a top view

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Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: oldschoolcoupe on August 22, 2016, 07:52:58
+1 for majano anemones
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: Kenn on August 22, 2016, 13:32:30
+2 majano
Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 23, 2016, 19:54:40
Thanks guys.  The majano have been removed, hopefully for good. 

mtamorrow the salmon worked great for "Speedy", and he even came out of his little anemone cave at least for a while.

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Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: mtamorrow on August 24, 2016, 08:51:00
That's awesome!  I'm going to feed my rose bubble and mini carpets salmon today actually. We grill it every other week or so and I cut a few small raw pieces and freeze them for use when we get it


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Title: Re: Nano Reef start up
Post by: NanoReefer937 on August 24, 2016, 12:30:47
Is it normal for cabbage leathers to darken in color?  I woke up and mine is a couple shade darker than when I went to bed.  Seems fine other than that though.  Thanks for any information.