Author Topic: I hate unwanted visitors (Read 3576 times)

Neogenesis · « **on:** January 19, 2014, 23:37:53 »

I must say, I hate it when I find unwanted visitors in my frag tanks. It seems that no matter how much I dip, inspect, or clean new frags, something always sneaks through. I pulled two of these guys tonight. Nudibranchs........................ggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Guess it's time to inspect every piece in the frag tank now.

Twizted1 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 19, 2014, 23:55:24 »

I take it those are bad?

Neogenesis · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2014, 00:06:47 »

Good or bad I don't know, but there are MANY MANY bad nudi's and seeing that I found them hiding in the zoas, I can only assume that's what they like to eat. They've been banished.

Now....that being said there is at least one good variant that is supposed to eat aiptasia, however I can't ever seem to keep them, and they are easily identified as they are pure white.

Wall_Tank · « **Reply #3 on:** January 20, 2014, 08:58:47 »

I bet he matched the color of the zoas too. Good catch, but there are likely more.

Neogenesis · « **Reply #4 on:** January 20, 2014, 12:41:28 »

You are correct. He nearly matched the zoa......and I found these two on separate frags of the same zoa. I gave everything a quick once over last night and didn't see any more, but will be dipping and double checking today.

chromiumlux · « **Reply #5 on:** January 20, 2014, 12:59:47 »

Quote from: Neogenesis on January 20, 2014, 12:41:28

You are correct. He nearly matched the zoa......and I found these two on separate frags of the same zoa. I gave everything a quick once over last night and didn't see any more, but will be dipping and double checking today.

Yep! Check for the eggs.

lazylivin · « **Reply #6 on:** January 21, 2014, 09:42:51 »

Fresh water dips with great. When I had bryopsis years ago and re-plugged everything I couldn't get it all from between the zoas. I took the zoa rock and put it in my swimming pool for 15 minutes, chlorine and all. Then soaked in saltwater and dechlorinator for 24 hours to allow chlorine to dispate. Zoas were fine. I am not suggesting bleach dipping. Lol. Freshwater dips should kill them and zoas would be fine if you want to dip larger rocks and not worry about contaminating tank with dip solution.

Neogenesis · « **Reply #7 on:** February 13, 2014, 22:23:40 »

It appears that I'm losing this battle, no matter how many I pick out, how many eggs I remove, how much I dip, it's a losing battle and most of my zoos are lost at this point. I'm hoping they won't migrate to the main tank, but as of now I'm considering all zoo frags in the frag tanks a total loss. Checking frags in the DT daily for pests.

I'm really unhappy with a certain person right now.......cause I know where they came from.

Twizted1 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 13, 2014, 22:52:38 »

Quote from: Neogenesis on February 13, 2014, 22:23:40

It appears that I'm losing this battle, no matter how many I pick out, how many eggs I remove, how much I dip, it's a losing battle and most of my zoos are lost at this point. I'm hoping they won't migrate to the main tank, but as of now I'm considering all zoo frags in the frag tanks a total loss. Checking frags in the DT daily for pests.

I'm really unhappy with a certain person right now.......cause I know where they came from.

That's not good. You need to have a heart to heart with that person. Let them know what they have and how they can avoid spreading their problem in the future. And hopefully that person listens and won't be a problem again.

Steve · « **Reply #9 on:** February 14, 2014, 00:01:36 »

Quote from: Twizted1 on February 13, 2014, 22:52:38

That's not good. You need to have a heart to heart with that person. Let them know what they have and how they can avoid spreading their problem in the future. And hopefully that person listens and won't be a problem again.

True. I bought some acros from a person that had AEFW. When I told them they at first didn't believe me, but later thanked me. We have all battled with different pest and such. Hope you get the better of this Scott. Have you considered some natural predators like wrasses and maybe a coral banded shrimp?

joncat24 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 14, 2014, 09:38:46 »

Have you tried Flatworm Exit? I have used this in the past with awesome results, kills em all.

Neogenesis · « **Reply #11 on:** February 14, 2014, 10:01:20 »

Flatworm Exit for nudibranchs......might have to give it a try. Will it kill the eggs as well?

Thanks!!!

joncat24 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2014, 10:05:07 »

Yes, it killed them all in a previous tank I had. Follow dosing carefully and after 30 minutes or so, you can see them start to drop off. Then you have to do a water change to remove toxins they release when they die.
If you google it you will find alot of posts on the subject.
Worked well for me, anyway.

Travis8896 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 14, 2014, 10:06:28 »

If you need a coral band shrimp I have one

ReeferMadness · « **Reply #14 on:** April 10, 2014, 23:02:17 »

Liveaquaria sells nudibranches and it says "reef safe"

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Neogenesis · « **Reply #15 on:** April 11, 2014, 01:14:16 »

There are good types of nudis, the one I know of eats flatworms. However the one in my photo likes to eat zoanthids.

ReeferMadness · « **Reply #16 on:** April 11, 2014, 01:29:48 »

i wonder if they all could potentionally have a taste for them

Neogenesis · « **Reply #17 on:** April 11, 2014, 01:44:09 »

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=497+524+2198&pcatid=2198

These guys are great for eating flatworms.....however if you run out.....they eat nothing else. From what I've seen and understand, and I'm no expert, nudi's pretty much stick to what they like to eat, when it's gone they die. Monti, zoa, flatworm eating nudi's while in the same family, vary greatly in appearance, size, and physical structure. When their particular coral is gone, they die.

Wall_Tank · « **Reply #18 on:** April 11, 2014, 07:56:34 »

Yes, there are reef safe nudi's. Liveaquaria typically sells the Blue Velvet Nudi, which is said to feed on flat worms.

Nudi's have very specialized diets, the variety shown above will only be seen on zoanthids.

Boonjob · « **Reply #19 on:** April 11, 2014, 08:23:03 »

Hope you can get it straightened out man! Keep us posted, and I agree, let the other person know whats up, help keep the hobby healthy and safe for all inhabitants, they may not even know what they have as steve has said.

Neogenesis · « **Reply #20 on:** April 11, 2014, 08:34:25 »

It's been straightened, it's amazing how tough zoa's can be. I was not nice while trying to exterminate the little buggers, and amazing enough the zoas survived the torture I put them through. I've not seen another nudi to date.

First there was manual removal of pests and eggs.
Then there was the flatworm exit dip. "I read on one forum it can work so I figured I would try it."
Then it was to the Coral Rx dip.
Then they got run under freeing cold water "city water" direct from the tap for a good 5 minutes. Thought being the temperature swing could possible kill them.
Then they got dropped back into the tank.

Not to say they didn't look worse for the wear, but I think all but one or two frags survived and are coming back. And no I would not try this at home boys and girls.

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