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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2010, 23:00:24 »
Quote from: Seano Hermano on July 28, 2010, 22:41:26

Also, see the vertical line at about the fron 3rd to half on the end? The whole front 1/3 will lift up on a hinge.


A hinge .  Thats what I assumed but wanted to make sure :)
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2010, 23:12:52 »
I see it wasn't very clear. I'm not sure what I want to do as a top on the canopy.
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2010, 08:19:38 »
as for the top i would put some vents for heat to exscap
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2010, 09:32:55 »
Yeah I think in the top will be two 4" fans. Is that too big of fans?
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2010, 11:40:44 »
Quote from: Seano Hermano on July 29, 2010, 09:32:55
Yeah I think in the top will be two 4" fans. Is that too big of fans?

 :laugh: too big  :laugh:

This is what I am getting ready to put on my sons 37g :) canopy. I am going to use 3 or 4. They only run $15 each


Thermaltake ISGC Fan 8" Cooling Fan   - AF0043



The air flow is about 25CFM and they have to be modified a little because they are DC current


Just remember that if you install fans, make them PULL the air through. air doesn't do well being forced into a space (unless your feeding it into a cars engine  ;D ... but thats another show  :laugh:  ) ...u get a compression effect.


« Last Edit: July 29, 2010, 11:45:12 by kennv431 »
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2010, 12:40:57 »
Those fans are 8". Isn't that a bit much for a 29g?(one fan would fill the end of the canopy) lol I plan on using 4 fans for the canopy.

I was thinking one fan on each end & the 2 fans pulling air up.

For the fans on the ends...should they both go the same direction, to pull air through the canopy? I wasn't sure, as I would also have fans blowing air up. With that in mind my other option would be to have both end fans pull air into the canopy then the top fans would pull air out.
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2010, 13:06:08 »
Quote from: Seano Hermano on July 29, 2010, 12:40:57
Those fans are 8". Isn't that a bit much for a 29g?(one fan would fill the end of the canopy) lol I plan on using 4 fans for the canopy.

His tank has a 250watt MH over it  ;D ...also I am HUGE on having a back up system in place. I am going a little overkill, just in case the AC craps out unexpectantly and I need all the cooling  I can get from the fans. and at $15 a piece it's a easy system to have in place.
 
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For the fans on the ends...should they both go the same direction, to pull air through the canopy? I wasn't sure, as I would also have fans blowing air up. With that in mind my other option would be to have both end fans pull air into the canopy then the top fans would pull air out.

My rule of thumb for air movement is 2 to 1 ...2 fans evacuating a space to 1 fan supplying air. (IMO :)  )
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2010, 16:19:33 »
Quote from: kennv431 on July 29, 2010, 13:06:08
His tank has a 250watt MH over it  ;D ...also I am HUGE on having a back up system in place. I am going a little overkill, just in case the AC craps out unexpectantly and I need all the cooling  I can get from the fans. and at $15 a piece it's a easy system to have in place.
Yeah that would be great if I was doing the 75 I had planned for. But this is just 96w of HOT5 over a 29g.

Though I am sure it works great for him.
 
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My rule of thumb for air movement is 2 to 1 ...2 fans evacuating a space to 1 fan supplying air. (IMO :)  )
umm...what? I take it your the kind of guy that when something calls for a 2x4, you use 2, 4x4's? lol(if that's what your saying...:))
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2010, 16:56:40 »
those r some nice fans where did u find them i could use about 6 of them
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2010, 17:40:48 »
Quote from: Seano Hermano on July 29, 2010, 16:19:33
Though I am sure it works great for him.
 umm...what? I take it your the kind of guy that when something calls for a 2x4, you use 2, 4x4's? lol(if that's what your saying...:))

Well.... I am a Architectural \ Electrical Consultant ...so... YES, thats what I am saying  :laugh:

Hunger ... heres the link for the fans ...

http://www.buy.com/prod/thermaltake-isgc-fan-8-cooling-fan-1-x-80-mm-1600-rpm-1-x-hydro/q/loc/101/214559111.html

I use the 6" version on my gaming network computers here at home (7 computers set up for warcraft, starcraft, C&C ect... What can I say but that I'm a big kid with kids and we like to game !!!  :laugh: )

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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2010, 17:48:56 »
cool thanx
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2010, 18:06:11 »
Quote from: kennv431 on July 29, 2010, 17:40:48
Well.... I am a Architectural \ Electrical Consultant ...so... YES, thats what I am saying  :laugh:

Hunger ... heres the link for the fans ...

http://www.buy.com/prod/thermaltake-isgc-fan-8-cooling-fan-1-x-80-mm-1600-rpm-1-x-hydro/q/loc/101/214559111.html

I use the 6" version on my gaming network computers here at home (7 computers set up for warcraft, starcraft, C&C ect... What can I say but that I'm a big kid with kids and we like to game !!!  :laugh: ) :D Thanks. What were your thought as far asfan dirstoin for the fans on each end? I know the top 2 will pull air up. But the end 2...both pull air in(to the go up), or both fans pull air in one end then out the other?


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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2010, 19:11:17 »
Quote from: kennv431 on July 29, 2010, 17:40:48
Well.... I am a Architectural \ Electrical Consultant ...so... YES, thats what I am saying  :laugh:

Hunger ... heres the link for the fans ...

http://www.buy.com/prod/thermaltake-isgc-fan-8-cooling-fan-1-x-80-mm-1600-rpm-1-x-hydro/q/loc/101/214559111.html

I use the 6" version on my gaming network computers here at home (7 computers set up for warcraft, starcraft, C&C ect... What can I say but that I'm a big kid with kids and we like to game !!!  :laugh: )

That is an 80mm fan.    And for what it is worth, Radioshack carries a 120mm thermaltake for $9.99
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2010, 19:28:07 »
um...I'm not sure why I quoted Kev, up above. lol
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2010, 21:33:34 »
Quote from: Wall_Tank on July 29, 2010, 19:11:17
That is an 80mm fan.    And for what it is worth, Radioshack carries a 120mm thermaltake for $9.99

You are correct !!! I had my macros on my work laptop turned off and wasn't paying attention  :laugh:

IMO I am not impressed with 120 mm because I am looking for more flow. with the 80mm a little less air volume is produced, but more airflow. And the 120mm produces more air volume because it has bigger blades but limits the airflow because it is bigger.


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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2010, 08:14:48 »
so for once bigger isnt better  :D
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #41 on: July 31, 2010, 00:47:06 »
Late-night update! ;D I went to my so-called, "local" fish store today(Tiffin, has no fish store, so I have to go to Findlay for all my stuff.). I got new sand,well actually aragonite, for the tank to replace my crushed coral. I need to go to the hardware store to get eggcrate for the bottom of the tank before I can put this sand down. I also need to drill the tank. Which means moving the fish somewhere...?

I also got about 5 lb more rock while I was there. Looks pretty neat. I will post a picture tomorrow.

Now, I'm off to bed! :P
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2010, 01:50:28 »
Quote from: Seano Hermano on July 31, 2010, 00:47:06
I need to go to the hardware store to get eggcrate for the bottom of the tank before I can put this sand down.

  !! STOP !!  :laugh:

This is only IMO ... Dont do the egg crate !!  ... I have had big problems with this stuff in the past when I had a FO system. I just think it is a problematic system. Just spend your money on more sand and go with a deep sand bed. Much more effective and less problems.
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2010, 04:15:56 »
I agree with the egg-crate bottom.  DONT DO IT.  I am having issues with it right now.  I am actually in the process of tearing down my 150 and starting all over because I cant get it under control.

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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2010, 10:41:38 »
What's wrong with it?

Also, a DSB can actually over time create hydrogen sulfide in the tank, which is toxic.
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2010, 12:07:39 »
+1 on no egg crate    use what they call star board
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #46 on: July 31, 2010, 12:12:03 »
Here is a small thread on a little discussion on it

http://www.ohioreef.com/index.php?topic=7726.15

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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #47 on: July 31, 2010, 12:28:47 »
Quote from: kennv431 on July 31, 2010, 12:12:03
Here is a small thread on a little discussion on it

http://www.ohioreef.com/index.php?topic=7726.15


u found it befor i could
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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #48 on: July 31, 2010, 12:31:17 »
Quote from: HUNGER on July 31, 2010, 12:28:47
u found it befor i could

I just remembered it for some reason  :laugh:

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Re: 29 Gallon Mixed Reef Build (July 2010)
« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2010, 23:12:03 »
hmm so no eggcrate? I guess it kaes sense that algae would occur. But I don't want a dsb, so...? Just do it with no eggcrate? just carefully place the rocks on the glass, then pour sand around the rocks?
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