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Offline jd

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Water Clarity
« on: June 23, 2009, 19:18:27 »
Hey guys...

My water has started to turn white-ish. Not very, kinda of a haze. Any idea what this might be? Started running carbon. I had a few pieces of calurpa (maybe 6 strands a foot long) could it have gone sexual? Only have a 29gal....
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2009, 19:24:41 »
Jd, Is your caulerpa bleaching on the ends, or becoming transparent?  If you have any red grape caulerpa, that is a likely candidate for the problem.  Have you checked your amonia levels?  Not getting the carbon bag rinsed good enough can also cause cloudiness in the water..

If you can get up here, we'll run a full parameter test on your tank water, and see where everything is for you.

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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2009, 19:26:42 »
Checked nitrate's but not ammonia. Will check that now. Will check the caulerpa...
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« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2009, 19:44:13 »
Okay... ammonia is fine. I found a small handful of transparent green grape caulerpa. Is that enough to cloud my water? I've also got some Kenya trees that haven't opened up in a few days... Everything else seems fine.
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2009, 19:53:52 »
Jd, It sounds like the caulerpa has possibly gone sexual, all softies are very sensitive to this occurance.  You should cut out all the caulerpa that has gone transparent and remove it.  Do not pull it out, as it can release toxins into the tank.  I would also check and document the full parameters of the water for reference purposes.
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2009, 19:56:33 »
Wait Wait Wait Wait....  My tank gets cloudy at times too. Does there by chance happen to be an anemone in the tank??? cuz if there is.... it's very happy    ;D
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2009, 19:58:42 »
mcDcoblentz.... I do have an anemone in the tank.
He has been bigger than usual... You may be on to something...

Cuane/Justin: Thanks guys. I removed the caulerpa. Took it out of the sump, picked it out and replaced it. It was mixed in with some cheato I had.
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2009, 20:18:02 »
Highly recommend that you "prune" any and all types of caulerpa weekly to prevent it from going sexual. Another way to minimize this is; do not turn the fuge light off. Caulerpa are QUITE toxic after going sexual. A lot of people are steering away from caulerpa and using all cheato or mangroves, as it is less likely to go wrong on you.
If it is your anemone spawning, your skimmer will be working overtime and your filter should take care of most of that...your filter will need a good cleaning afterwards though. Also if it is coming from an anemone it is usuall quite thick and the majority could be taken out wth a brine net if you have about two hours to stand there and swipe a net. 
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2009, 20:27:42 »
Dwayne, i agree with you 100% Caulerpa is nothing but a time bomb waiting to go off, Cheato only in my fuge,
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2009, 20:29:29 »
All the Caulerpa is gone. I knew I should have removed it sooner. It came in a handful of cheato I had :( My skimmer water level was very low and I was skimming very very dry. Tuned it up some to help out. If the Kenya trees do not recover in 2 days they are out too. The anemone has got to go. I got it when I didn't know anything and its grown too large. Problem is my maroon clown hosts in it. Will removing it stress her?
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2009, 20:37:43 »
What kind of anemone is it? None the less, yes your clown will likely be stressed out, may and probably will become a little more agressive. In addition to the strong possibility that it may try to host in any corals that have tenticles. Not always a problem, but can cause un-needed stress on the coral.
As far as the kenya tree goes, they can pull through. Don't give up, iodine supplement will help it out.
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2009, 20:40:45 »
Jd - Is that the cheato and calerpa you got from me?
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2009, 20:42:00 »
D/J: Its a condylactis anemone. She's been pretty passive for a Maroon. I've got some Xenia in there now she can go to. Its still way smaller than she is tho... :) Thanks for the tip on the iodine will add a little tonight

Josh: Yeah. Don't worry about it tho.  :D
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2009, 20:47:18 »
Mine has not done that (from what I know of).
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2009, 20:51:05 »
Quote from: jjw2121 on June 23, 2009, 20:47:18
Mine has not done that (from what I know of).

The lighting in my sump is pretty sub-par. After a few floods the skimmer had to move where my fuge was and my fuge where my skimmer is. Skimmer section is small and with my overflow spa-flex in the same chamber the light that gets to the cheato underneath is pretty poor. Still trying to fix this situation.
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2009, 20:54:29 »
getting more light to it can only help it...
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2009, 20:58:58 »
I know. I need to redo my sump....
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Re: water clarity
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2009, 21:10:27 »
anything to do with the new addition of phyto? did the cloudy build overtime or BAM overnight?

EDIT: can someplease move this. i was trying to reply to jd's thread on cloudy water but this retarded "free" internet kiosk at DFW screwed it up. thanks

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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2009, 21:35:24 »
Wes: I haven't added phyto in a few days. I guess the cloudness kinda crept up on me. Its not 'bad' but the water in my picotope is clearer.
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2009, 22:11:11 »
Sounds like you probably found the problem, but just one other thing to check is to make sure you're not having a calcium precipitate.  I've had that happen where the alk & ca parameters get out of whack, and then a precipitate will form....and will turn the tank a lovely shade of opaque white (then attach to everything and you'll have to razor it all off...ugggh.)  Anyway, just always trying to think outside the box.  :)
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2009, 22:43:59 »
Thanks Nikki, I haven't check my cal levels in a few weeks. I guess I should do that too. Dang this hobby is hard work!  ;D
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2009, 23:25:47 »
Did a huge water change. Hopefully that will clear some of this up...
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2009, 01:16:04 »
Quote from: jd on June 23, 2009, 22:43:59
Dang this hobby is hard work!  ;D

I second that.
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Re: Water Clarity
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2009, 20:03:33 »
Because I'm sure everyone is on the edge of their seats, an update!

Water looks much better. I think it was a combination on calurpa going sexual, my too large anemone being gross, and carbon that hadn't been rinsed well enough. So remember: Water look like hell? Do a 75% water change :)
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