Author Topic: DIY wavemaker group build (Read 8488 times)

cyberwollf · « **on:** August 16, 2010, 21:31:54 »

Ok im at a point where my diy controller has been running the tank for a week or so and I am very happy with the results. I would like to offer DIY wavemakers. These work great on the cheap korillia Evos or any other 120v powerhead that doesnt chatter on startup.

So I need to know how many people would be interested. I think parts and labor can be kept <=$15

You get an assembled circuit board with 6 wire leads. 2 for +-5v, 2 for +-120v, and 2 hot outputs. If you are wanting to run more than 2 powerheads we can work something out.

This will be controlled via a twist knob to control amount of seconds between switching. From very quick to around 15 seconds.

So a populated board with twist knob and 6 wire leads. Any interest? cheap and simple

Any other info they'll need JD? FYI it'll be a 555 timer, triacs, optoisolators, RC, and a pot

cyberwollf · « **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2010, 21:51:54 »

Note to self:

100k pot ATP-100K
470 uF cap 470R16
LM555
opto MOC3022
HTA06-600
PCB-46
S81250
DCSID
DCJ-21
TB-3
LCAC-194

32 seconds max cycle time with 100k R2 and 470 uF cap

TechGuy · « **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2010, 22:05:33 »

I am in, and if you need help with assembly I can help aswell.

stickboy_107 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2010, 22:14:38 »

I will take one.

cyberwollf · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2010, 22:22:51 »

Quote from: stickboy_107 on August 16, 2010, 22:14:38

I will take one.

You better! I started this because of your whining lol

HUNGER · « **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2010, 22:46:43 »

could u have them wavemake during the day and off all night?

cyberwollf · « **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2010, 22:56:39 »

Quote from: HUNGER on August 16, 2010, 22:46:43

could u have them wavemake during the day and off all night?

Yea just put the 120v line on a timer like you would lights.

HUNGER · « **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2010, 23:07:39 »

o ok

Reefinmike · « **Reply #8 on:** August 17, 2010, 01:44:39 »

I'm in, however, I think between 10 and 30 second range would be a bit better if possible.

slandis3 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 17, 2010, 06:20:23 »

Wes do you know if this will work on the older korillia's? If not I may need to get some maxi mods.

cyberwollf · « **Reply #10 on:** August 17, 2010, 06:52:18 »

Quote from: illnino on August 17, 2010, 01:44:39

I'm in, however, I think between 10 and 30 second range would be a bit better if possible.

After doing the math on the resistors I came out with a 30 second max cycle. You can adjust anywhere from superfast to 30 seconds between switching. Just twist the knob

cyberwollf · « **Reply #11 on:** August 17, 2010, 06:56:37 »

Quote from: slandis3 on August 17, 2010, 06:20:23

Wes do you know if this will work on the older korillia's? If not I may need to get some maxi mods.

This will basically be like flipping a switch on and off to you powerheads. If the pumps don't chatter or startup backwards it will work. I just throw out the Evo name becuase that was one of their selling points. No chatter and a braking system that allowed wavemakers to be used. Just plug and unplug it every 15 seconds for awhile and see if you are happy with the results

I know my nodded maxis wouldn't work. They usually needed to be brought to the surface to be restarted

jd · « **Reply #12 on:** August 17, 2010, 10:20:49 »

Wes, The 555 doesn't need a -5V, its needs a ground.

Midwest Express · « **Reply #13 on:** August 17, 2010, 10:30:24 »

Count me in! I would love one!

cyberwollf · « **Reply #14 on:** August 17, 2010, 12:40:39 »

Quote from: jd on August 17, 2010, 10:20:49

Wes, The 555 doesn't need a -5V, its needs a ground.

That's what I meant but was too lazy to type gnd.

Midwest Express · « **Reply #15 on:** August 17, 2010, 12:45:34 »

Just wondering, but will this work on maxijets? I know they aren't controllable, but if this is just an on/off controller... shouldn't it work? I have never used MJ's before. I have just had the original Koralia's. I can't use them I know cause they cackle when they start up. Well my #2 does, but my #1 doesn't.

jeblin · « **Reply #16 on:** August 17, 2010, 14:07:16 »

I'm in for 1...maybe 2 ;-)

Just let me know when you need the money!

Thanks!

Jerry

stickboy_107 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 17, 2010, 18:24:26 »

Quote from: cyberwollf on August 16, 2010, 22:22:51

You better! I started this because of your whining lol

I knew if I Whined long enough I would get some cheese

cyberwollf · « **Reply #18 on:** August 17, 2010, 20:19:32 »

1x TechGuy
1x stickboy $20
1x illnino $20
3x Mayhem $20
1x Midwest $20
2x Jeblin $20?

I couldnt tell, some folks weren't very specific if they infact wanted one, let me know if I missed you

Also, looking around I think i can offer an "Upgraded model" for $20 This will include a 6 foot AC power plug, an enclosure, sockets for both powerheads to plug in, and DC plugs. This version will pretty much be plug and play you would just have to supply a >5v DC supply (old cell phone or printer charger)

Coral Squad · « **Reply #19 on:** August 17, 2010, 22:50:24 »

i am intrested in 3 $20.00 models

HUNGER · « **Reply #20 on:** August 17, 2010, 22:56:36 »

no im good i have turn on off my power heads but they chatter

TechGuy · « **Reply #21 on:** August 17, 2010, 23:48:26 »

How a many amps @ 5V? Most chargers are 200ma or less. Unless you have a BlackBerry, Moto Q, or other smartphone charger.

cyberwollf · « **Reply #22 on:** August 18, 2010, 06:55:19 »

Quote from: TechGuy40 on August 17, 2010, 23:48:26

How a many amps @ 5V? Most chargers are 200ma or less. Unless you have a BlackBerry, Moto Q, or other smartphone charger.

Way way less than that. 5v is just to run the 555 timer and bias the Triacs. It's just cheaper to use it that way instead of building a rectifier onboard. Most people have tons of old chargers laying around. And there will be a 5v regulator so your charger can be anywhere from 5-12v DC

jeblin · « **Reply #23 on:** August 18, 2010, 10:04:19 »

I'm in for 2....of the DELUXE models ;-) Just let me know when you need the cash. I might have some old blackbery chargers laying around if someone needs one.

Midwest Express · « **Reply #24 on:** August 18, 2010, 10:23:43 »

Quote from: cyberwollf on August 17, 2010, 20:19:32

1x Midwest

I couldnt tell, some folks weren't very specific if they infact wanted one, let me know if I missed you

Also, looking around I think i can offer an "Upgraded model" for $20 This will include a 6 foot AC power plug, an enclosure, sockets for both powerheads to plug in, and DC plugs. This version will pretty much be plug and play you would just have to supply a >5v DC supply (old cell phone or printer charger)

I would like my one to be the "Upgraded Model" please!

Coral Squad · « **Reply #25 on:** August 18, 2010, 11:34:47 »

can 1 5v source run all 3

TechGuy · « **Reply #26 on:** August 18, 2010, 12:39:03 »

Quote from: MAYHEM_AUDIO on August 18, 2010, 11:34:47

can 1 5v source run all 3

From what Wes says yes. Especially if it can regulate 5-12V, everyone has something laying around that is within that range.

buckeyereefer · « **Reply #27 on:** August 18, 2010, 13:29:22 »

would like 2 of the "upgraded models" please.

thanks

cyberwollf · « **Reply #28 on:** August 18, 2010, 17:36:06 »

Quote from: MAYHEM_AUDIO on August 18, 2010, 11:34:47

can 1 5v source run all 3

Sure, are you trying to run 6 powerheads in wavemaker or 2 powerheads in each of 3 tanks? Im sure we can make something less complicated if i understand what the end goal is

stickboy_107 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 18, 2010, 18:32:13 »

Make mine the upgade model

Reefinmike · « **Reply #30 on:** August 21, 2010, 14:43:12 »

Upgrade me!

Coral Squad · « **Reply #31 on:** August 21, 2010, 16:19:12 »

3 seperate tanks

cyberwollf · « **Reply #32 on:** August 25, 2010, 20:09:03 »

I got the circuit laid out in CAD and most of it breadboarded, but I cant seem to find a 555 at my house. Josh, can i get one from you?

jd · « **Reply #33 on:** August 25, 2010, 20:13:34 »

Wes,

I don't think I have any either. I'll dig around in a sec for one.

cyberwollf · « **Reply #34 on:** August 25, 2010, 20:14:29 »

Quote from: jd on August 25, 2010, 20:13:34

Wes,

I don't think I have any either. I'll dig around in a sec for one.

Of course its always the 50 cent parts that hold up progress

Midwest Express · « **Reply #35 on:** August 25, 2010, 23:24:05 »

Quote from: cyberwollf on August 25, 2010, 20:14:29

Of course its always the 50 cent parts that hold up progress

There is always the electronics shop on broad street in fairborn! They have almost everything on hand you could need.

cyberwollf · « **Reply #36 on:** September 02, 2010, 21:55:30 »

Didnt want yall to think i left you hanging lol. I finally got off my butt and went and bought the $2 chip I was needing lol. Well heres a vid of it in action, just used some xmas lights i had laying around. Interesting enough i think the max blink rate is off, 100k pot is supposed to give me 30 seconds between switchs, but i think its actually much longer at max. Doesnt matter anyways, just dial it in where you want and leave it there. BTW if anyone hates debugging circuits I wanted to let you know that I was crazy frustrated because I had trouble getting the second string to blink. After triple checking the circuit, it turns out it was a faulty connectoin in the breadboard!!! Who susptects their breadboard is acting up!!!

Video:

I was just twisting it to show some of the switch rates. In operation it is dead accurate on every switch wherever you set it. JD you should have the eagle file tonight once I double check the CAD drawing.

rmstevensiii · « **Reply #37 on:** September 03, 2010, 08:53:11 »

If you're still taking orders... pls put me down for 1 of the upgraded models.

Also, in case no one else has asked, is there any way to add an option to run both powerheads at the same time for a cycle? ie... PH 1 on, 30 secs, PH 2 on for 30 secs, both on for 30 secs, PH 1 on for 30, etc...

Midwest Express · « **Reply #38 on:** September 03, 2010, 08:56:50 »

Looking good man! Can't wait to get one and hook the bad boy up!

cyberwollf · « **Reply #39 on:** September 03, 2010, 09:01:37 »

Quote from: rmstevensiii on September 03, 2010, 08:53:11

If you're still taking orders... pls put me down for 1 of the upgraded models.

Also, in case no one else has asked, is there any way to add an option to run both powerheads at the same time for a cycle? ie... PH 1 on, 30 secs, PH 2 on for 30 secs, both on for 30 secs, PH 1 on for 30, etc...

Not in the current implementation. The goal of these were to kiss. Do the red sea wavemakers, etc have that option? Without thinking about it too much I think it could be done with an extra chip or 2. Let us build and test the prototype board, and crank out a dozen or so for everyone and then we can talk about custom work if you still want it

HUNGER · « **Reply #40 on:** September 03, 2010, 17:07:29 »

very sweet

rmstevensiii · « **Reply #41 on:** September 03, 2010, 19:10:27 »

That's cool... no worries. Just thought I'd ask. I'll let you guys get thru the standing orders and if you get the time to go back and redesign with that feature, put me back on the list.

Thx

mgraf · « **Reply #42 on:** September 18, 2010, 20:46:00 »

Hello,
Are you still making these? I am not a member of your club, I am a member of C-SEA because of my location. I have been interested in one of these for some time. I have looked on many do it yourself sites but, I am a carpenter, all the electronics are way over my head. I would be willing to get you the money either through the mail or would even be willing to drive to you for payment and pick up. Let me know please, the upgraded model sounds sweet.
Thanks!
Matt

cyberwollf · « **Reply #43 on:** September 19, 2010, 09:13:14 »

..... I need a part from JD, and 3 times he conveniently "forgot" it last week when we met up... Hopefully I get it this week and can build the test board to confirm the layout. Then I can order the bulk for people still interested. Remember, Diy maybe cheaper but it's certainlly not faster

and there is almost not profit in the pricing of these for me, so not incentive to get it done NOW, and I just started grad school. So, while I'm not purposely taking my time, it's in the works. The idea was to provide a piece of eq at a super low cost that most folks wouldn't buy because of price. If anyone really needs a wavemaker now, go buy one

Hopefully by the end of the week I will be ready to Collect money and order stuff. It probably helps if I set a goal like that

after I order it will probably only take a weekend to assemble.

mgraf · « **Reply #44 on:** September 20, 2010, 00:03:03 »

Hello,
I am very interested in in one these. I have seen them on many diy sites. I am a carpenter, and my electronic skills are dangerous at best.

I am not a member of your club but, I do belong to C-SEA. I upon occasion look onto your forums for some good reading.
Just wandering if there were any of these wavemakers you guys make laying around for sale? Please let me know, I will be checking back in from time to time.
Thanks
Matt

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Author Topic: DIY wavemaker group build (Read 8488 times)

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