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Title: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on January 25, 2009, 22:40:23
Although the grow out tank is sharing the same water as the display tank thought I would create a new thread a different thread. Hope you enjoy.

The original purpose of the tank was to have a place to put broken coral fragments or purposeful grooming.  An additional goal while planning the build was to have a place that was comfortable to test, log and dose chemicals.

Now that it has been up and running for the past couple of months I found it to be much more gratifying than expected.... aquaculture is really fun. It is neat to take small cuttings and watch them grow, experiment with placement (lighting and flow) and see how corals respond to different conditions such as color and polyp extension.

One experiment I did is take one single polyp from a few SPS corals to see if they would survive which is tuff to cut on some species. Having some interesting results that I will write about later.

Some of the things that I have planned for the future:




Tank Parameters

Live Stock

Some of you have probably already seen the pictures but there are a couple of newer ones as well.

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Some Red Acans

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ORA Pearlbeery frags

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Moon Coral

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Have had the Zoanthids in the back for about 4 years. Got from Fishdoody when they were in biz on 5street

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Some sort of brain coral

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My favorite Zoanthids. (orange ones in the front)

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SuperMan

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Some Singular frags

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Dosing Jugs….Calcium, Mag and Alk

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Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Riderc82 on January 25, 2009, 22:52:38
You have some nice stuff, nice writeup.  Them Orange zoanthids are nice.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: jake on January 26, 2009, 04:20:21
looks good man
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: ohioreef on January 26, 2009, 06:05:57
Very nice!
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Lost Floridian on January 26, 2009, 06:16:55
that is a nice set up!
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on February 08, 2009, 06:19:18
A cespitularia sp. Sometimes called Blue Xenia. Just got this about a week ago so has not fully developed the florescence they are known for when kept under intense Metal Halide lighting.

Took these pictures at night, only light is from the flash of the camera.

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Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on February 08, 2009, 22:19:24
Weather was pretty nice today so got the saw out and built a cabinet and installed a light mover I got from Midwest Express. It works really good.
Plan to add doors and raise the light about another 5". The light was about 16" away from the water before so have it dimmed all the way down to acclimate the corals.

I will take a video soon so you can see it in action.

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Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Riderc82 on February 08, 2009, 22:23:36
Looks like your ready to open up shop.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: aquavista99 on February 09, 2009, 09:21:26
Looks, geat, Lazylivin!
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on March 04, 2009, 22:57:03
Not sure what kind of coral this is but thought it had a neat shape to it so could not resist picking it up. Kinda of looks like Odie  :D

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Blue Xenia starting to get some nice color to it.

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Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on March 04, 2009, 23:04:14
Couple more pics

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Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Riderc82 on March 04, 2009, 23:06:21
Do you have any pink birdsnest in there?
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on March 04, 2009, 23:10:12
Quote from: Riderc82 on March 04, 2009, 23:06:21
Do you have any pink birdsnest in there?

Got about 8-10 of them. Thick branch style have decent color but the thin branched ones are pretty brown. Going to try and reduce nutrient levels to see if that helps. All those brown corals you see should be pink or blue :crybaby
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Amstar on March 04, 2009, 23:20:00
Do you sell anything out of your frag tank? Or is it just for
Personal use?

Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on March 04, 2009, 23:37:00
Quote from: Amstar on March 04, 2009, 23:20:00
Do you sell anything out of your frag tank? Or is it just for
Personal use?



It is mainly just for fun and experimenting but I do occasionaly post stuff for sale or trade with other club members in the For Sale Forums.

I have a couple of corals that I grew from a single polyp. Here's two that I cut about 1/8" off the tip of a coral to get just one polyp from. I am surprised that they survived. This is about three months of growth. They  are very small, the plug they are on is only 1/2"

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Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: aquavista99 on March 04, 2009, 23:43:20
Your frag tank is very nice, Lazy! That superman will be a show piece coral in no time!
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on March 05, 2009, 00:00:37
Quote from: aquavista99 on March 04, 2009, 23:43:20
Your frag tank is very nice, Lazy! That superman will be a show piece coral in no time!

Thanks for the compliment but that superman......It is complety brown now. It only took about two weeks to go from what you see in the first picture to 100% brown. Not sure if it is due to the chronically low PH or nutrient levels. PH will straighten itself out as it is getting warmer and furnace not running. Nutrients are undeticatable but what I hear is that does not mean much. Maybe you will see a issue with something when you are out this weekend. I am hopeful  ;D
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: aquavista99 on March 05, 2009, 17:52:50
Quote from: Lazylivin on March 05, 2009, 00:00:37
Thanks for the compliment but that superman......It is complety brown now. It only took about two weeks to go from what you see in the first picture to 100% brown. Not sure if it is due to the chronically low PH or nutrient levels. PH will straighten itself out as it is getting warmer and furnace not running. Nutrients are undeticatable but what I hear is that does not mean much. Maybe you will see a issue with something when you are out this weekend. I am hopeful  ;D

Looking forward to the visit, Lazy! One solution is to give the superman to me....just kidding! I am sure once you figure out what is going on, the coral will return to its original amazing color.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on March 30, 2009, 21:29:14
I picked up this Gorgonian last week. Rich (Coral Ranch) said he thinks it is photosynthetic. I sure hope so because it is very nice color and I would hate to loose it. Here are some pictures. If anyone has seen one like this before and has any information on it please let me know.

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Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: MechanicalEngineer on March 30, 2009, 21:46:25
Absolutely gorgeous!  I think the purple ones are usually photosynthetic.  Not 100% sure though.  If it thrives, I'm down for a piece!
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on March 30, 2009, 21:53:11
I sure hope so. Going to post up on RC to see if someone chimes in that has one.
It was a bit linky looking and was to tall to fit in the shallow tank so the top picture is after I fragged it! So will have plenty to go around.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: JoeAyers on March 31, 2009, 09:03:56
Sweet. Still the nicest frag tank around. How did you mount the gorg frags? They look so soft to me that I always thought they would be hard to mount.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on March 31, 2009, 09:48:14
Quote from: JoeAyers on March 31, 2009, 09:03:56
Sweet. Still the nicest frag tank around. How did you mount the gorg frags? They look so soft to me that I always thought they would be hard to mount.

Thanks Joe, To mount I drilled  small holes in the frag plugs with 1/8" drill bit and just stuck them in there with a drop of super glue. To prepare the frag I used a surgical stainless steel scapel and cut off the skin about a 1/4" up the frag to reduce the risk of getting a bacterial infection from rotting in the hole.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: buckeyereefer on March 31, 2009, 16:36:36
  i am interested in a frag if they do well.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: micki on March 31, 2009, 16:42:02
Quote from: buckeyereefer on March 31, 2009, 16:36:36
  i am interested in a frag if they do well.
Me too!  :)
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on April 21, 2009, 23:36:51
There is a post on RC that a lot of you may have seen where someone took several colors of monti caps and glued them on one frag plug and was able to get them to swirl together. So over the past couple weeks I got several kinds from club members and tried the same thing. So far so good. some are touching each other and don't appear to be fighting. It is possible that the dominant one will out grow the others but hoping that I can cut it back if that occurs. Here is a picture of one of the plugs. It has 4 colors, Pink, Red, Purple and Green.

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Got this one from pontiac2002gtp, to nice to experiment with so saving it for the display tank when it grows out.

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Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: micki on April 22, 2009, 07:21:10
How is your Gorgonian doing?
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on April 22, 2009, 10:52:21
They are doing good. Still not sure if they are photosynthentic. No tissue recession yet and the tips have healed up where I cut them. No encrusting at the base yet though so the jury is still out.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: micki on April 22, 2009, 15:07:08
Do you have it in a high flow area or does that seem to matter for this particular kind?
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on April 22, 2009, 19:03:15
They are probably in medium flow rate and under a 400w Metal Halide.

Quote from: micki on April 22, 2009, 15:07:08
Do you have it in a high flow area or does that seem to matter for this particular kind?
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on May 11, 2009, 22:02:25
Quote from: micki on April 22, 2009, 07:21:10
How is your Gorgonian doing?

It has been a couple months and they look as good as when I got them and not feeding the tank with anything but flake food. I ran across these photosynthetic Gorgonia on Live Aquaria today and think it is the same thing.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?c=2733+5&ddid=62781 (http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?c=2733+5&ddid=62781)
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: micki on May 12, 2009, 16:20:03
Very cool!
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Rob on May 12, 2009, 17:06:33
Where did you get your light mover?
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on May 12, 2009, 22:00:09
I bought it used from Midwest Express. Love it, works great.

Quote from: Rob on May 12, 2009, 17:06:33
Where did you get your light mover?
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: JoeAyers on May 13, 2009, 08:29:00
Quote from: Lazylivin on May 12, 2009, 22:00:09
I bought it used from Midwest Express. Love it, works great.


Midwest Express got it from me, I got it form Sean Danekind. I think Sean bought it retail. I think Baggerhog has a couple that he isn't using if you are looking for one.

Joe
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Rob on May 13, 2009, 09:00:47
Is Midwest Express a person or a store?
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Amstar on May 13, 2009, 09:42:51
Person
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: UD Flyer on May 18, 2009, 18:49:59
Hey Lazy, how is your overflow drain plumbed? It looks like its from the bottom and then there’s some type of fitting on the top of the pipe. Im looking to do something like this and your setup looks unlike any I have seen before and would like to replicate it, if its not to noisy.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on May 19, 2009, 20:17:15
You are correct. It is a straight pipe plumbed from the bottom. At the top of the pipe there is one of these
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The top opening has a pvc cap that is pressure fit. I use it to dose magnesium into. Just pull the cap and pour it in.
100% quiet. I will get a good pic of it for you.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on September 26, 2009, 17:29:29
Here is an updated video of the frag/propagation tank. Not the greatest quality with my point and shoot camera but turned out okay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxmRcE29U2M&fmt=35

Couple of Stills

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Armageddon 2 on left, Gochsters in middle and Armor of God on Right

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Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: chromiumlux on September 26, 2009, 20:45:15
You are aware Sir that I will require a frag of those Goochsters when available.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: jd on September 26, 2009, 21:47:08
Quote from: chromiumlux on September 26, 2009, 20:45:15
You are aware Sir that I will require a frag of those Goochsters when available.

Seconded. Those are sick looking!
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Kenn on June 08, 2010, 22:59:42
Hey Brian...

just wanted to bump your old thread :) ( thought larrynews might find it useful )

Now that I have seen this in action a few times, is there any problems you have run across or anything you would change or have changed?

Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: HUNGER on June 08, 2010, 23:03:49
i do want the ones in the middle
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on June 08, 2010, 23:05:09
I don't think there is anything I would change Ken. It is likely that it will go back just like it was once the new display tank is complete.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Reefinmike on June 08, 2010, 23:23:03
Very nice looking frag setup. Do you sell things out of the tank or is it just a grow out for small frags you purchase?

btw- I think putting something like a 6-line wrasse in there would look cool.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on June 08, 2010, 23:43:31
I always liked the 6-line wrasse but heard they like to nip at hard corals. Not sure if that is true?

I do have a few things listed for sale on frag swapper but mostly zoanthids.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Reefinmike on June 09, 2010, 00:39:31
I had a big old six line in my 125 sps tank i had years ago and never had any problems. I think they are a cool fish to put in a fuge or frag tank because of their almost cryptic nature and fantastic color... just best alone because of their attitude. Im thinking about setting up a 30g breeder as a frag tank again... where did you get black eggcrate?
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: bamaguy on June 09, 2010, 09:37:48
nice setup
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on June 09, 2010, 17:35:26
Quote from: bamaguy on June 09, 2010, 09:37:48
nice setup
Thanks

Quote from: illnino on June 09, 2010, 00:39:31
where did you get black eggcrate?

It is from Mendelson's downtown
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: ghurlag on June 09, 2010, 20:13:31
It has me inspired, Brian...  Where did you get that tank?  Did you cut down a 40g long or something?
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Kenn on June 09, 2010, 21:14:08
Quote from: ghurlag on June 09, 2010, 20:13:31
It has me inspired, Brian... 

Me too !

Now if I can only get that darn money tree to grow  :laugh:
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Reefinmike on June 09, 2010, 21:46:38
Quote from: ghurlag on June 09, 2010, 20:13:31
It has me inspired, Brian...  Where did you get that tank?  Did you cut down a 40g long or something?
33 longs are relatively common tanks (atleast ive seen a lot of them). I know they are made by all glass aka aqueon and it shouldnt be too hard to track one down.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: HUNGER on June 10, 2010, 08:19:17
or 40 breeders r good to
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: ghurlag on June 10, 2010, 17:52:25
Quote from: illnino on June 09, 2010, 21:46:38
33 longs are relatively common tanks (atleast ive seen a lot of them). I know they are made by all glass aka aqueon and it shouldnt be too hard to track one down.

I've never seen one before...  Not common in my areas of exposure...  pretty slick nonetheless.  One would make an awesome shallow display tank, too.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Kenn on June 10, 2010, 20:31:34
Quote from: HUNGER on June 10, 2010, 08:19:17
or 40 breeders r good to
Breeders are a little deeper than longs are they not?
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on June 10, 2010, 21:21:49
Ken I will make a thread in the equipment forum tonight with all the tank sizes. I have it in excel just need to format it so it looks good in the forum.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: ghurlag on June 10, 2010, 21:30:34
That would be awesome, Brian.  Ken, depending on what you are looking at, yes, Breeders are deeper/wider and not as long (such as a 40L is 48" long whereas a 40 Breeder is 36" long)
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Midwest Express on June 18, 2010, 20:43:55
Quote from: Lazylivin on May 12, 2009, 22:00:09
I bought it used from Midwest Express. Love it, works great.


I'm back but different name.  Forgot what my login was on the site.  Lookin good Brian!  Glad to hear the mover is working out!
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: lazylivin on June 18, 2010, 22:34:08
Wes so glad your back!  Hope you are coming to the swap tomorrow.
Title: Re: LazyLivin's growout tank
Post by: Midwest Express on June 21, 2010, 11:46:18
I didn't get to make the swap this time.  I already had some stuff goin on Sat.  

I will be at the next meeting though!