Ohio Reef
Reef Discussion => Tank Profiles & Build Threads => Topic started by: Grymtooth on February 15, 2017, 12:51:32
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So I am finally upgrading in the near future, so decided I would list out what's going in it.
90 gallon corner overflow tank, stand and canopy (painted)
Mag9 return
Bubble magnus skimmer
40 gallon custom sump with 10g top off section
Brightwell NO3 xport block
80lbs live sand
Unknown dry rock
2x AI Hydra 26 HD
2x 250w heaters
And I will be moving the livestock and the apex from the 20 into this one.
Will post pics as I get things together.
Jordan
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looking forward to seeing how it turns out.
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Upgrade!!!! Love the depth on the 90 corners. Keith has his rock scraped cool with kind of a cove in the middle.
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Whoops I see now the overflow is in the corner.
Well to remain positive, the corner overflows are better I think as the back walls are kind of in the way in the 90's.
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Picked everything up today. Need to paint canopy/stand, and assemble everything
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Nice! Congrats
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Looks like a great set up
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Still need at least one more coat of paint on the stand, but coming along.
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Stand and canopy mostly completed. Needs some touch ups and light sanding and need to finish painting doors.
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And the new rock work.
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Test fitting plumbing and stand
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That new setup is looking great!
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Nice!
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Very Nice!
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Looking Good
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So I cemented everything as it was dry fitted from the dealer, and it seems I have two small drip leaks in some of my joins. Any ideas on how to "patch leaks". I was thinking of looking for plumbers putty or just using caulk, but open to suggestions.
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And yes, I know, I just found out that the bulkheads are upside down. Debating now on just patch, or start cutting and hope I have spare bulkheads.
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Is the water coming from the 90 degree elbow or the bulkhead above it? I find it hard to believe that the 90 is leaking if you cemented it since these aren't high pressure lines. I've run plumbing uncemented (accidentally) for a couple of years before it started to leak on me. If it is indeed the 90, the best fix would be to cut it off and start over (which may mean getting a new bulkhead). I've tried waterproof epoxy to stop a bulkhead leak once and it did nothing but make a mess that was really hard to get off later when I finally replaced the bulkhead. You may be able to get by with using some silicone to seal it or maybe possibly using some PVC cement and putting it all around the connection.... but honestly I would do it right and completely replace it.
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Just noticed your comment about the bulkheads being upside down... I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I agree that something doesn't look quite right... the flange and the seal go on the inside of the tank and the nut goes on the outside (which is what it looks like you did). Maybe you just have a strange brand of bulk head that looks slightly different?
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So both leaks appear to be between the bulk heads and the elbows. Possibly top of both elbows. Bulkheads are not leaking that I can tell.
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I have a 1" slip x slip and a 3/4" slip sump side and threaded inside tank. Also have 3/4 threaded to slip fitting. You can have them if you're in a lurch and have to cut it out to redo.
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I know I have spare bulk heads, just don't know what size/connections they have.
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Unfortunately your bulk heads are in upside down. Most tanks i see are assembled the same way and folks dont realize it until it is time to take the tank down. When you unscrew the nut on the bulkhead there is no way to take the bulkhead out because you cant pull the pvc through the hole in the bottom of tank. It requires you to cut the plumbing in place to disassemble the tank. It is also tough to move a tank with a bulkhead sticking out the bottom. The bulkhead should go up through the bottom of tank and in tank stand pipes can by dry fit. To disassemble all you have to do is pull out the stand pipes, unscrew bulkhead and all plumbing comes out.
The leaks in plumbing may be due to not chamfering (de-buring) the cut edge
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So are you saying the nut should be on the inside?
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With this tank/overflow configuration, yes.
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Gasket inside tank also I assume?
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I like to use gaskets on flange side and nut side
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With this tank/overflow configuration, yes.
I guess that makes sense... I've always just been under the impression that if you are going to move the tank you are also going to replace the plumbing so you'd just cut the bulkhead off... but what you are saying would be alot easier.... guess I'll try that on my next build.
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A small amount of lubricant around the gaskets also help to get a nice seal.
I agree with Miles, cut it apart and redo it.
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Water, sand, rock in, canopy painted, time for the minor details while waiting on the cycle.
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Hate to be bearer of bad news. The rock you have in there isnt what would be classified as reef rock. Reef rock is light and porus, that looks heavy and dense; closer to stone. The sand will dedintley give you some biological filtration.
What did you end up doing with the plumbing?
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Lol no worries Brian! It's Texas holey rock in there. Also have a brightwell xport brick in the sump, that will help with filtration. Also getting some pukani, and what's coming out of my 20 will be going in there.
As far as the plumbing, just decided to patch, I'll have this running for quite some time so not going to worry about it for now.
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Sounds like you will be good then. :-ThumbUpsm
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Over the past couple of days I have been questioning my choice in sand. I picked up 4 bags of reef sand and 3 bags of oolite. The idea was to blend them so I would have sand that wasn't too hard on the burrows and still heavy enough to not cause visibility issues. Unfortunately that isn't what happened, right now I have a heavy layer of oolite covering everything including the return pump, skimmer and all.
I picked up some filter floss padding and a filter sock, so running those for a while and cleaning them out regularly to try to help with the powder all over everything.
I guess one could say "lesson learned" on this point, just hope the sand doesn't damage the return pump or the skimmer motor.
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Figure I should post some pics. Doors are still being painted and still deciding how to handle the electrical.
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Diatoms showed up in full force today. First chemistry tests:
Salinity 1.025
Alk: 10dkh
ph: 8.2
Nitrate: 1
Nitrite: .1
Ammonia: 0
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Diatoms showed up in full force today. First chemistry tests:
Salinity 1.025
Alk: 10dkh
ph: 8.2
Nitrate: 1
Nitrite: .1
Ammonia: 0
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Awesome! Lookin good and really happy for you!
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Picked up a clean up crew pack from gerbers (nerites, ceriths, margaritas, turbos, and hermits) and three chromis to put in for now. Gerbers did have some nice very small hippo tangs I was considering. Will have to get that later as my budget is now blown.
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Glad to see everything is coming along....Looks Great
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Thanks! I am getting really anxious to move things from the old tank into the new one!
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it is hard to have patience sometimes
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Lookin good, with time it all falls into place.
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The clean up crew has been busy. Lost one chromis, but no big deal there. Will let cuc get to it when it does. But you can see where they have been working.
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Forgot, got the doors on too.
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Very... interesting direction on the cable management, haha. ;D JK
The setup is looking great!
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Amazing Job. Can't wait to see it finished!
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So I had gotten to work on the electrical last night and planned on switching power strips entirely. So turned the big yellow on off, unplugged everything and started placing cable runs. After getting everything plugged in, one of the Hydra 26s did not come back on. Looks like all three LED colors are showing on the indicator, and no documentation on what that means. So looks like i will be contacting them for exchange/repair options.
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Called C2/AquaIllumination this morning. Come to find out there was a fault on the WiFi device inside the light, so they are sending me a new unit. Hopefully will be here by Friday.
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Got everything moved over today!
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looks good ...Let the growing begin
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Nice job. Well done
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Okay so we had a small miracle while breaking down the 20. We had bought a yellow goby (the sand sifter type) a few months ago, but he was a scaredie cat and jumped into the overflow several times. And jumped out of the tank once. Last we had seen him was 2 to 3 months ago.
We just broke down the 20, took the tank in the yard and sprayed it down with the hose. After rinsing everything out, I noticed a gold color in the grass, and imagine my surprise to find the goby laying in the grass gasping for breath. Quickly scooped him up and threw him into the 90.
So you think you've had a bad day, this poor guy has been in the dark for 2 months, limited food, no sand to dig in, no rock to dig under, then suddenly get a freezing cold tap water bath, lay in the grass for a couple minutes and then thrown into a new tank.
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Stand and canopy look really nice. Good job
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Looks great!!!
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Added in 32oz of pods to the sump/refugium and got a tiger pistol shimp. Unfortunately it seems the shimp went into the least visible location. Hoping the pods do well as we are planning a mandrian, a pipefish, and a ruby dragonet in the future
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Thought I would put out an updated picture. So far everything is looking good except for the favia and toadstool, which I am suspicious that the lights were too strong when I turned acclimation off. So acclimation mode turned back on at 50% for a month. Added 32oz more pods into the sump, removed the filter sock, and just letting things run.
Good news is that the cuc is finally putting a big dent into the gha and the clove corals are starting to emerge from it. Maybe a couple more weeks until gha is gone.
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Is the yellow goby still kicking?
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Not just kicking, but thriving! He's gotten his color back, eating well, and paired up with the tiger pistol we got for him. Been wondering if we should get a pistol for the pink spot. Only concern is that he is MASSIVE as an engineer. Might need a very large pistol for him. Still debating, but having to limit acquisitions to match funds.
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If I can get a picture of the yellow engineer, I'll post it.
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Here is the yellow goby!
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Cool fish Jordan!
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Looks like it made itself right at home :)
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Definitely looking much happier compared to when we first put him in
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He doesn't look like he just came out of the grass. That's awesome.
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So thought I would post some updates. Got an ATO in place (many thanks to pipbull). Experienced my first acrylic shaping while making brackets for the float. Thankfully only went through two small sheets.
Everything is starting to look better for the most part, still need to do more chemical tests but I do know that I am not getting anywhere near enough ammonia in the tank as the macro is not doing well.
About to cut off some more rastas and debating on what to make a large frag from. Should I do candy apple, bam bams, and rastas on a single rock? Or maybe do Tyree armor of God and pink hippos on a rock?
Anyways, here are the pics!
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Looking good buddy.
ammonia is bad so no ammonia is good....lol think you meant nitrate
remember take it Slow its a new tank dont go adding a bunch of additives right away.. It takes time to mature and stabilize
Candy Apples look great by themselves and even better in a colony
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True, shouldn't have any ammonia, nitrates, and nitrites, but my thinking is that with only 5 small fish in there and a ton of inverts, I don't think I'm doing much to encourage good cycle/bacteria growth since there is not much waste.
Was thinking of a combo just for color as well as a nice selling piece.
Also on the look out for a small (I.e. less than 2 inches) powder blue or hippo Tang.
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Just takes time
combos are always nice just have to find them with similar growth rates or one might take over the other
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That's why I was thinking the aogs and pink hippos or doing the Rasta, bam bam, and candy apply combo, they have about the same growth rate and size versus something like Rasta and aogs
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Sounds like you've got a good plan
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Picked up a new addition this weekend. Found a purple whip gorgonia. This is very long, might even be able to frag parts of it before too long. I am assuming it's not in much demand though.
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Figured I would post some new shots.
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Love that gsp rock...
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Thanks! One of our favs to when the current hits it
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Nice powder blue. New?
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Yep, bday present
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Thought I would post a few updates. Lost the Tang unfortunately, and also removed the Kenya tree and lost the Duncan. Put in a new rock which looks great in the scape. Having a major aptasia outbreak as well, planning on trapping the fish and putting them in Cu qt to kill out ich, and while the "bully" six line is out, will add some peppermint shrimp to clean the aptasia.
Also, if anyone is interested in the six line, he will be available for rehoming after Cu treatment.
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Sorry to hear about the Tang.... sounds like you have some work ahead of you.. Don't count on the peppermint shrimp if the out break is bad you might need the wand or i shoot them with a needle of Kalk.
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Problem is most are in hard to reach areas of course. Have a plan though, retailer has aptasia in it's tanks, going to borrow a rock, stick in with peppermints and see who attacks, and buy those. (Grin)
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So after having some recent heartache with lost fish, we are rethinking our tank "theme". We are going to keep the yellow watchman, the chromis, and maybe the pink spot goby (need some info on this).
We are going to switch it to a 90 gallon "nano reef". The pink spot would be the largest fish in it, but planning on stocking with mostly gobies (neon, clown, etc) and others smaller than 2 inch.
Future plans still have a mandrian and a scooter blenny and lots of softies and lost corals.
More to come as we plan it out.
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Oh, forgot about my question, would a pink spot goby eat sexy shrimp? I know most don't keep both together, but was unsure of this. If he will eat them, I will need to re-home him.
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Get yourself a laser, I recently purchased one and probably the best investment in a long time. You can literally melt them down right through the glass
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Get yourself a laser, I recently purchased one and probably the best investment in a long time. You can literally melt them down right through the glass
Can you elaborate? What kind of laser? Have you personally done this? How far away was the laser?
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I have read and seen YouTube videos for a couple years about people doing it and was curious. I ordered a 5 mw laser off of eBay, I only had two aiptasia and I'm not a fan of chemicals in my tank. Literally took about 2 to 3 days of zapping for a minute to 2 or 3 minutes per session and it literally wiped out the aiptasia from base to tip. You can see the anenome burning and curling up. Pretty remarkable. So yes I would highly advise a laser to burn aphasia
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Jbanion, I think that is an absolutely incredible solution. I too am not a fan of adding chemicals to the tank. And for you to have anecdotal evidence that it works is very promising. I have been extremely careful adding new things to my tank. Last week I seen a single aiptasia and my heart sank. I covered it with glue and putty but now I'm seeing small polyps on the same rock and I can't yet tell if they are aiptasia or hydroids. If they're aiptasia, I may have to try the laser thing myself. Great information!!
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I'm doing the fallow/hospital tank right now myself. Not fun! I like your idea using all small fish. That should look great.
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I would assume that the laser would also kill any corals if left on them for too long? Post a link on which one you purchased. I just looked and there are quite a few of them of different colors.
Jeff
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Didn't realize there were so many posts here.
Okay so laser, the club does have one and I have used it. The biggest problem with the laser is line of sight, since they don't always face the front of the tank and crevices, etc. Yes it will harm corals, melt plastic, etc depending on it's focal point. But there's also the same problem as the wand, you also have to grab the floaties as the fly away.
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So, I am also open to suggestions for ”nano fish", we are already planning 3 to 6 neon gobies, a mandrian, a pipefish, more sexy shrimp and some clown gobies.
We would love some active fish and would be great tank mates and coral safe. And again small, ideally I would like about 15 to 20 fish or so, if that would fit in a 90. Oh and no Cardinals.
Any ideas?
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Flasher wrasse. Fire fish. Fang blenny. Midas blenny. Wheeler Goby. Springeri damsels. Zebra barred dartfish. Skunk tilefish. Orchid dottyback.
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Recent chem test from today. pH is low, but could use some ideas on what's ”ideal values" still.
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Your alk is low. boost that up and you probably will see a rise in your ph. Everything else looks pretty good, phos are ok but for sps they could come down some. I like to shoot for .06 or so.
Jeff
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Great small fish: Talbot's damsel, great color and very easy going. One of my favorites is the Splendid dottyback, incredible color and very easy going.
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Time for a quick pic
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I didnt know you could have multiple gobies. Is it because your tank is so large?
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Generally gobies are non-aggressive, even with same families . The only really problem with them (in my view) is that there are not many pretty and colorful ones.
I think most of the requirements for most others is "sufficient hiding spots" so that each can make their own home. Similar to the 6" perimeter around most stinging/feeder tentacled corals.
Granted my tank is still "under construction" as I have more rock to add to display.
Finally, small updates on livestock, two of the barletts have gone m.i.a. so assuming they are eaten by the cuc. Rock nem has been moving around, seems like he can't find a comfortable spot yet. And the mandrian has been doing really well, happily pecking pods off the rocks.
Jordan
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Just added in about 20 lbs of rock into the tank yesterday.
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Also, changed my light values, noticed that I am getting better colors on a lot of corals that we're shaded a bit, so dropped my uv, blues, and purple to 100% rather than overdriven to 115.
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Looks fantastic Jordan. Love the wall!
Just added in about 20 lbs of rock into the tank yesterday.
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I like the overflow covered. Looks better
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Love this tank! Sweet rockscape, and ultra clean!
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This tank is coming along great. You keep making great changes and improvements.
Great job and looks great!
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Great aquascape update, looks really good, I agree with Lazy - Overflow covered in your set up looks better.
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Looks awesome!
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So, some updates. Cleared out some Xenia and GSP, bought a Gramma, and three sapphire/springeri damsels. I think we are getting close to livestock limit, and still planning another powder blue tang, a couple clowns and hopefully a couple garden eels.
Coral colors are looking a little better after turning the lights down a bit, may drop it again by another 10% in the next week or two.
Some "odd" things: my toadstool looks like it is being cut or damaged and is dropping small pieces a bit, but that is good so that I can "naturally" frag it out.
Clipped some gorgonian pieces and glued to a plug, so growing some of that out, may continue fragging pieces of that out to sell/trade.
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Love the Springeri
They’re really bright and they don’t seem that mean for damsels.
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So, I am in the process of rebuilding the 90, and have a general question about plumbing. I got slip slip bulkheads and was hoping to not have to cement them so I could reuse later, unlike old bulkheads which I had to cut pipes off.
Would I be able to just insert the pipes or would I have to cement to keep from popping off?
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