Author Topic: Electrical help (Read 3331 times)

REDPYRO · « **on:** July 26, 2011, 16:13:24 »

Hello everyone,

Some of you may remember me form the olden days. I hope you are all doing awesome!

I have a project and needed some electrical help. Who better to ask, than a bunch of fool with a crap ton of electrical power running in water.

OK I need to install a subpanel with a single 20amp breaker in it. My house has 2 panels. This is the one closest to where I need to run an additional circuit. As you can see the panel has been tapped from a subpanel already. The current subpanel runs the A/C.

I have had an electrician out and he said he can install a subpanel and run the wiring ect but wants $500 to do it. I am ok with basic wiring and could do all the work, accept for the subpanel part. I dont understand were to tap off? can I tap off the bottom of the main panel where they have already tapped it for the AC?

http://www.mrlevek.com/electrical.htm

Can someone help me?

FancyDirty · « **Reply #1 on:** July 26, 2011, 17:04:35 »

if i was you i would tap in were the lines come into the box you allready have alot running off the bottom with out re doing them and adding a higher fuse

FancyDirty · « **Reply #2 on:** July 26, 2011, 17:06:57 »

was the price for just him hooking it up or was it for all the parts and him putting it in and hooking it up

micki · « **Reply #3 on:** July 26, 2011, 17:10:20 »

Hey Matt! How are ya??? Don't be calling me a fool!!! I can't help ya, but wanted to say hi!

REDPYRO · « **Reply #4 on:** July 26, 2011, 17:40:00 »

Hi mikki. FOOOOOLS!

The price was for everything including running a ground stake into the yard.

From what I gather, I can possibily tap into the black screw at the bottom inbetween the fuses if it reads 100-120v with a meter because it is 30a 110v, combined?

slandis3 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 26, 2011, 17:45:13 »

Are you trying to get a 20a 220v or a 20a 110v split?

REDPYRO · « **Reply #6 on:** July 26, 2011, 17:46:42 »

i am trying to get 20a 110v for a gfi outlet

REDPYRO · « **Reply #7 on:** July 26, 2011, 18:01:15 »

does this make sense?

direct wire this www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=40950-76863-U010S010GRP&langId=-1&storeId=10151&productId=3128737&catalogId=10051&cmRelshp=rel&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1
to the black screw (if it reads 30a 110v when i test is later with a meter) and the neutral bar and ground bar. Dont need a seperate panel because the breaker is built into the GFI plug?

REDPYRO · « **Reply #8 on:** July 26, 2011, 19:04:31 »

ok, the black screw is reading 120v on the meter.

REDPYRO · « **Reply #9 on:** July 26, 2011, 20:19:29 »

ok this panel is a giant mess, so unless someone wants to upgrade me cheap. forget adding fixes here. i dont want to burn my house down. thanks

slandis3 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 26, 2011, 20:36:05 »

You should be able to switch over to a 100a breaker box fairly cheap. You can get a kit from lowes with some breakers in it for 80-100 I think. That would solve a lot of issues.

Kenn · « **Reply #11 on:** July 27, 2011, 08:56:49 »

If you have room in an existing panel, you add a 20 amp breaker in that panel to feed the subpanel. but it sounds to me that all you need is another circuit run to feed a 20amp gfci and not a sub panel.

PM me if you have any questions and I would be happy to advise you.

I tried to check out your link, but it was a no go

REDPYRO · « **Reply #12 on:** July 27, 2011, 09:36:49 »

Sorry I changed the link. Here are my panels. I have no open spaces.

http://www.mrlevek.com/elec.htm

Kenn · « **Reply #13 on:** July 27, 2011, 10:02:54 »

Quote from: REDPYRO on July 27, 2011, 09:36:49

Sorry I changed the link. Here are my panels. I have no open spaces.

http://www.mrlevek.com/elec.htm

do you still live in the greenville area ? I am going to be making my yearly trip to the fair on the 20th of August if you can wait that long.

REDPYRO · « **Reply #14 on:** July 27, 2011, 10:04:36 »

slandis3 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 27, 2011, 10:38:58 »

Kenn I think the easiest way to will be to replace the fuse box and a/c lug with 1 larger sub box. That is what our shop electrician suggested as the easiest fix. What do you think?

REDPYRO · « **Reply #16 on:** July 27, 2011, 10:58:47 »

The sub box appears to be running off a 60a breaker in the main panel. will a 60a sub panel hold everything in that sub panel plus extra?

Kenn · « **Reply #17 on:** July 27, 2011, 11:15:46 »

Quote from: slandis3 on July 27, 2011, 10:38:58

Kenn I think the easiest way to will be to replace the fuse box and a/c lug with 1 larger sub box. That is what our shop electrician suggested as the easiest fix. What do you think?

I agree ... however due to the age of the main panel, that prob should be replaced. If thats the case, the existing subpanel could be eliminated. I am going to try to get up his way so I can get a hands on peek to make sure there are not any hidden issues.

slandis3 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 27, 2011, 11:36:41 »

Quote from: Kenn on July 27, 2011, 11:15:46

I agree ... however due to the age of the main panel, that prob should be replaced. If thats the case, the existing subpanel could be eliminated. I am going to try to get up his way so I can get a hands on peek to make sure there are not any hidden issues.

I agree, it depends on how much you want to update while you are doing this.

REDPYRO · « **Reply #19 on:** July 27, 2011, 11:43:34 »

i will do whatever you awesome people tell me to. Hey Kenn I am around all the time this week anytime. Next week football starts so I have practice in the afternoons. from 2-6 (pm of course) I have to give the am/pm disclaimer because last year a kid on the basketball team, when told the bus leaves at 3, asked, coach is that am or pm....OH YA!

FancyDirty · « **Reply #20 on:** July 27, 2011, 18:39:11 »

Quote from: REDPYRO on July 26, 2011, 17:40:00

The price was for everything including running a ground stake into the yard.

thats not a bad price if he is going to do it all you will have at least 150 if not more in materials

REDPYRO · « **Reply #21 on:** July 27, 2011, 18:56:08 »

Really? 2 breaker subpanel $20 with 20a breaker. $30 for gfi exterior outlet. $30 for wire. I am just guessing based on what I saw at lowes.

He was going to install a 2 breaker subpanel, with 20a breaker, run line out into yard and install gfi outlet.

FancyDirty · « **Reply #22 on:** July 27, 2011, 19:18:46 »

if i had to do it that about what i would charge to do it for a friend i would do it for about 350 400 and as for the wire what you think you will need double it and that how much you will use so if u double the wire with tax your at about 150

REDPYRO · « **Reply #23 on:** July 27, 2011, 19:22:19 »

aquavista99 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 27, 2011, 23:27:05 »

If it were my house, I would pay a little extra and have a licensed electrician who has all the proper permits, etc, do the job? Why? because if something bad happens , and it was caused by a DIY install,your Insurance company will deny the claim and you could be out big bucks in the long run.

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