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Offline lazylivin

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2012, 12:34:55 »
I have a battery and power inverter but not a UPS. Would it be cheaper to use that or is the issue with the relay required to switch between AC home power and Invertor Power? If that is more complex then I should just buy a UPS.

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2012, 12:58:52 »
I have a battery and power inverter but not a UPS. Would it be cheaper to use that or is the issue with the relay required to switch between AC home power and Invertor Power? If that is more complex then I should just buy a UPS.

This is all a UPS does.....just in a neat clean package.    If you want to DIY it, I have a 120v coild relay you can have.

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2012, 17:23:56 »
Neptune released the new firmware......beta release.    I always have used their betas, rarely they have big problems.

Love the new home screens.


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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2012, 17:50:16 »
Nice! I saw that at macna. Times like these I wish my build were done and ready to play.

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2012, 20:22:06 »
Paul I will let you beta test for a while before I update mine. Let me know if you have any issues.

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Apex Setup
« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2012, 17:54:44 »
I had also seen the new release at MACNA. Paul are you running the new beta release?
I have my apex set up on a small ups and I also set my router up on one. That way I'm still able to see what's happening when the power is out.

I hadn't thought of backing it up with a marine battery. As I have my tunzes backed up this way in case of a power outage.

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2012, 18:06:38 »
Yes,  I'm running the beta.   No problems so far.


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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #32 on: March 03, 2013, 10:11:23 »
Neptune introduced the Leak Detection module at Macna too...   I just noticed that it is now for sale too.

$75 for the interface module.....and $30 per probe.    hmmmmm....I'm sure this could be done cheaper with a DIY solution, but this is pretty elegant.

http://www.neptunesystems.com/products/expansion-modules/leak-detection-ald/

And the 4.20 firmware is out of beta.

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2013, 12:04:09 »
Going to give the new firmware a try, the new interface looks nice

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2013, 12:09:56 »
Make sure you do it with a hard cable connection.....don't use a wireless adapter.   And do a backup before you start.

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2013, 12:30:47 »
I almost forgot about that. Thanks

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2013, 11:19:32 »
so lazy what has been improved on the set up
did you add any more

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2013, 12:46:15 »
I never did update the firmware. I will soon but just haven't had a chance yet.

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2013, 12:54:07 »
Looking to order the Apex and was wondering where you guys suggest to buy from? Do any of the club vendors carry the apex? Any club discounts? Right now i'm looking at Marine Depot because they show it in stock.

http://www.marinedepot.com/Neptune_Systems_Apex_AquaController_System_with_Standard_Grade_pH_Probe_Multi_Item_Monitors_Controllers_for_Saltwater_Aquariums-Neptune_Systems-NS11087-FITEMOMI-vi.html

Are the standard probes sufficient or do I need to get lab grade?
Any other add ons I need right away other than the standard Apex which I will eventually add to and grow.

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2013, 13:25:07 »
Premium Aquatics is a club Sponsor and they sell the complete line of Apex products. Order Monday arrives Tuesday.

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #40 on: April 14, 2013, 13:27:21 »
I've spent extra for the lab grade before- it wasn't worth it.

The only thing that I would recommend in addition to the standard kit is the I/O breakout box. You can wire up switches on your canopy for feed mode, to turn off your skimmer when you're cleaning, or wire it to a float switch in your sump (higher than your regular ATO switches) as an emergency overflow sensor.

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #41 on: April 14, 2013, 14:04:15 »
I was wondering if their was a row limitation on the Apex. I am setting up my dosing pump. This is what I have. After inputting and clicking the update button it shows fine. Then when leaving and coming back it has lost everything beyond row 18. Anyone know if this is the limitation on the apex.

Set OFF
Fallback OFF

If Time 00:00 to 00:10 Then ON
If Time 01:00 to 01:10 Then ON
If Time 02:00 to 02:10 Then ON
If Time 03:00 to 03:10 Then ON
If Time 04:00 to 04:10 Then ON
If Time 05:00 to 05:10 Then ON
If Time 06:00 to 06:10 Then ON
If Time 07:00 to 07:10 Then ON
If Time 08:00 to 08:10 Then ON
If Time 09:00 to 09:10 Then ON
If Time 10:00 to 10:10 Then ON
If Time 11:00 to 11:10 Then ON
If Time 12:00 to 12:10 Then ON
If Time 13:00 to 13:10 Then ON
If Time 14:00 to 14:10 Then ON
If Time 15:00 to 15:10 Then ON
If Time 16:00 to 16:10 Then ON  ------- I lose everything beyond this line
If Time 17:00 to 17:10 Then ON
If Time 18:00 to 18:10 Then ON
If Time 19:00 to 19:10 Then ON
If Time 20:00 to 20:10 Then ON
If Time 21:00 to 21:10 Then ON
If Time 22:00 to 22:10 Then ON
If Time 23:00 to 23:10 Then ON


If S_pH > 08.50 Then OFF

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #42 on: April 14, 2013, 14:24:12 »
Never came up on that, but you might want to check into the OSC command

Something like..
OSC 0:55/5:00/0:55 Then ON
If S_pH > 08.50 Then OFF

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #43 on: April 14, 2013, 14:52:07 »
I was going to use the OSC command however I wanted the ability to increase the ALk doses during the low PH time. I know my tank consumes a total of 240 Minutes of Alk dosing per day. I was hoping to monitor PH swing and modify minutes to minimize the swing. I can do that with a combination of OSC and time commands but it becomes complex.

Based on recomendation does this work and what about the SET command? Would it dose 15 minutes each time power cycled

Fallback OFF
OSC 0:00/15:00/45:00 Then ON
If Time 17:00 to 23:00 Then OFF
If S_pH > 8.50 Then OFF

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #44 on: April 14, 2013, 15:29:19 »
There was a thread on RC where a guy did three different dosing schedules using virtual outlets.. let me see if I can find it.

But yes, I believe that time overrides OSC.

This is close.. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1885475

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #45 on: April 14, 2013, 15:39:21 »
It looks to me like you want to dose 10 minutes every hour, unless the ph is too high..

Fallback OFF
Set OFF
OSC 0:50/0:10/0:50 then ON
If S_pH > 08.50 Then OFF

I would think that would do it..

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #46 on: April 14, 2013, 15:47:45 »
That is a big help. I can make that work by using the time in OSC so it won't cycle with power. Then I can add some explicit times if I want to give a bit of extra dose during a specific time of night. I am looking for a total of 240 minutes of dosing. WIll this work?

Fallback OFF
Set OFF
OSC 30:00/15:00/15:00 Then ON
If Time 17:00 to 23:00 Then OFF
If S_pH > 08.50 Then OFF


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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2013, 15:54:47 »
I don't see why that wouldn't work.

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #48 on: April 14, 2013, 16:16:52 »
Should work.......

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Re: Apex Setup
« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2013, 16:47:42 »
Thank you

 

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